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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:43 am 
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I don't think you can apply a rebuild model to the NFL. A team drafting in the middle of the first round consistently can end up with a good talent base, unlike the NBA for example. Out of all contenders below I think only two are led by top 15 or so QBs drafted in house. The rest were put together by good drafting all across the board and/or good free agent signings. So the Bears can finish 9-7 or whatever and I don't see how it necessarily robs them of the chance to revamp substantially the roster. Just hit in your first four rounds year in and out and you're on your way to respectability if you have good coaching. Mediocre finishes don't cement mediocrity in the NFL.

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No! This season could go very badly.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
No! This season could go very badly.


A good measuring stick is this week against the Chiefs on the road.

Bears defense looked like it had some life on Sunday.

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No! This season could go very badly.


A good measuring stick is this week against the Chiefs on the road.

Bears defense looked like it had some life on Sunday.
They had their measuring stick in the first 3 games.

To even think about this season being worth anything, they have to go 8-4 the rest of the way. Not going to happen.

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This season is becoming a nightmare.

Hopefully our GM is good at picking the 5th best defensive player available with the 12th pick.

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This should be your dream season Rick. They are competitive but still losing. Those are the kind of teams that take a step up in the following year.

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This should be your dream season Rick. They are competitive but still losing. Those are the kind of teams that take a step up in the following year.

He would actually have to be a fan of the team for this to be true.

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This should be your dream season Rick. They are competitive but still losing. Those are the kind of teams that take a step up in the following year.
The only problem is if they delude themselves into thinking they are close because of it.

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Good thing you don't have to rebuild a roster in the NFL. Just hire a new coach and sign 20 cast-offs. RELOAD!

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The list of players the Bears want to keep going forward is increasing while L's keep piling up. This is best case scenario year for the Bears so far.

The problem is Jay is playing well and may luck them into a few wins, let's hope Tracy Porter, Antrel Rolle and the non-existant pass rush keep sabotaging him.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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This should be your dream season Rick. They are competitive but still losing. Those are the kind of teams that take a step up in the following year.
The only problem is if they delude themselves into thinking they are close because of it.


It would have been really nice to have one of those OLB from the first round developing opposite Mc Phee instead of this talk about spending huge money on Von Miller.

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It would be lovely if Langford takes advantage of this opportunity that has presented itself to him.

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That drop kept them alive for a top 5 pick, though.


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With that Packers win this is really turning into the worst case scenario for the Bears.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
With that Packers win this is really turning into the worst case scenario for the Bears.


How so?

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RFDC wrote:
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With that Packers win this is really turning into the worst case scenario for the Bears.


How so?
Very little chance at the playoffs now but a bad draft pick too and they probably use the improvement this year to think they can be great next year.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
With that Packers win this is really turning into the worst case scenario for the Bears.


yep

They really don't have a chance for the playoffs yet they are not eliminated. Sure there is progress but I don't see a lot of the guys making nice contributions as being members of a really good team.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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With that Packers win this is really turning into the worst case scenario for the Bears.


How so?
Very little chance at the playoffs now but a bad draft pick too and they probably use the improvement this year to think they can be great next year.


Failing to jettison Cutler prior to this season now seems like an even bigger mistake than it did last spring.

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i still think there's a much better chance of the vikings falling from grace and catching a few Ls than there is for the bears.... and don't forget that seattle is just one game ahead of the beloved at 6-5 and they've got the vikings this sunday, so no matter what you're going to be able to gain on SOMEBODY.... idk if getting the vikings to two losses ahead of the bears is a bigger help than potentially burying seattle at 6-6 and hoping for the best.

...but yeah, langford really killed >us by not holding on to that prolly-game-ending first down catch against minnesota, eh?

btw yet another great thread by roilermaker dick! =D

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Nas on 9/21/15 wrote:
At least Tebow would make things interesting. Sign him!


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tho i can't 100% fault nas cuz i understand the PTSD that comes with the jimmy clausen experience.... it gets you thinking crazy things. weird things. unbecoming things that an ordinary rational man would never consider in his lifetime/s.

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Can't wait for the inevitable 8-8 finish and Cutler coming back next year. The big narrative will be Cutler is finally all grown up and let's see what he can do with a healthy Alshon, White, and Royal. It'll be just like 2012-13 all over again.

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Can't wait for the inevitable 8-8 finish and Cutler coming back next year. The big narrative will be Cutler is finally all grown up and let's see what he can do with a healthy Alshon, White, and Royal. It'll be just like 2012-13 all over again.


cutler's been fine this year, IMO. earlier on around the DET/MIN games you can tell that fox was coaching in such a way to try and cutlerproof the offense, to the tune of two botched clock-killings and two losses (tho in the vikings game if langford holds on to the damn ball the bears win that)

honestly, i'm not saying the guy is the second coming of tom brady or anything.... but given what i've seen in my football lifetime of 2001-present, man, you can do a lot worse than jay.... and keep in mind he's had a clown college of offensive coaches since he got here (turner, martz*, TICE, trestman, before something proper in gase this year) and i mean.... shit, what quarterback is going to be firing on all cylinders without weapons? aaron rodgers isn't exactly setting the world ablaze without a proper #1 receiver this year, and even the patriots are slowing down some without edelman and gronk.

so yeah, i think cutler's earned at least 1 more year to see if he can continue improving under some legit coaching.... altho if fox brings in another dud of an OC if/when gase moves on, man, it'd be what... the 6th offense he's had to learn in 8 years? and yeah the NFL has a lot of turnaround and you prolly only average like 2-3 years in the same system.... but still there's got to be something said about having to learn a whole new offensive system every 1.33 years or thereabouts, especially if this parade of coaches are generally sociopaths meatheads or just bad at their jobs,.

* = martz technically had a pretty good tenure here (remember those 2011 bears were like 8-3 or 8-4 after beating san diego b4 cutler broke his thumb and the calib hanie era was thrusted upon us like [insert rape joke here, tho i can say if you remember that chiefs/bears game the first week after cutler went down i can tell you that caleb hanie isn no joking matter) but remember that after year 1 and the loss in the NFC championship game he had to go out and get rid of jay's BFF and his #1 receiver on the team, the now-proven-to-be-pretty-damn-nice greg olsen, just to show him who the fucking boss was..... and this is a guy who was on the absolute scrap heap of NFL coordinator/coaching gigs and only got the bears job when nobody else would come and lovie owed him a favor!

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FavreFan wrote:
Can't wait for the inevitable 8-8 finish and Cutler coming back next year. The big narrative will be Cutler is finally all grown up and let's see what he can do with a healthy Alshon, White, and Royal. It'll be just like 2012-13 all over again.

Vast improvement over what I expected, which was 2-14 and having to find a new player at all but 3 or 4 positions.


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