leashyourkids wrote:
The problem, sini, is that Sox fans use the phrase "the right way" 500% more than Cubs fans. In fact, I've never once heard a Cub fan utter the words "the right way."
touche.... i can say that as a baseball fan who was born and raised a cubs fan (with almost exclusively cubs fans in my family, tho my dad is technically just a chicago fan and doesnt really have an allegiance as much as he has 2 chances to win) but got into the expos when he got into baseball that i think i have a pretty even keeled view about all of this stuff from an inherently neutral perspective (tho cubs fans like to have me HAVE TO ADMIT that i have EVEN A LITTLE cub-hate because i'm not ostensibly 100% pom-pom waving WOO CUBBIES!!!! like i'm supposed to be) ---- so here's how i see it:
- yes, sox fans are indeed going out of their way to talk some shit and stick it to cubs fans and make them "eat their words" and point out any faults/flaws/issues with the team because of not only the miserable/self-loathing sox fan archetype/stereotype, but because....
- cubs fans have this weird pedantic vibe about them cuz, honestly, all of the stuff that could have been said or at times was actually said over the last 3-5 years of complete rebuild certainly looks like it's working out pretty damn well. honestly i dont think cubs fans are inherently built to deal with success "the right way" and therefore it's hard to act like you've been in the endzone b4 cuz even when you were running to the endzone 10+yds ahead of the nearest defender you'd end up spiking the ball b4 it crossed the goal line, you know what i'm saying? it's like you hang the severed goat heads from the statues outside wrigley b4 you even break the curse, you know?
obviously there's going to be counter-examples and a whole lot of 'I/WE NEVER TECHNICALLY SAID [whatever sox fans attribute to them]" and therefore he-said/she-said but at its core i think cubs fans en masse are beyond thrilled at how everything they (vocally?) could have hoped for over the last ~5yrs is seemingly working out maybe even better (and definitely sooner) than expected and OF COURSE you're gonna wanna stick it to the haters and have them eat some crow. that's part of the game and quite frankly right now cubs fans have earned the right to puff their chests out a bit and thump 'em somewhat and be like "yeah see hey this whole plan thing wasn't a completely shit idea now was it?"
however, as a sox fan or a neutral like myself might remind you (and this is where i get that "COMEON SINI ADMIT THAT YOU HAVE A LIL CUB HATE" stuff cuz that vibe i get is DUH! YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST RESPECT THE HELL OUT OF THIS CUB THING EVEN IF YOU DONT LIKE IT) i think there might be a little too much getting ahead of yourselves re: the game 163/WC sure thing with arrieta out there and then expectations for a quality playoff run that has you liking your chances against the cardinals in a 7 game series and then beyond..... and hey you've beaten kershaw this year! and hey you ARE good and this team isn't joe maddon working voodoo with a .500 team and getting lucky.... you're a legit 90something win team with arguably the brighest future in baseball, especially if you get more arrietaesque pitching.
and again, i think cubs fans deserve to puff those chests out and thump away some.... but i'd be awfully cautious about this game 163/WC thing and i'd worry about rationalizing any defeat into a "we're gonna be here forever" stereotype.... and hey while i cant completely fault all y'all for wanting to talk some shit cuz you have earned the right to, again, i still think you'd be equal to what you deserve and where i feel you're at with puffy-chestedness AT THIS MOMENT if you won the division and were for sure not having to go through a gerrit cole start to get to a proper playoff series.
soooo yeah that said, cubs fans are definitely being a bit pedantic and "i told you so" and whatnot, prolly a little too much given their current situation where i think ppl aren't as worried as they should be about game 163/WC but hey given the suffering and the fact that they're the cubs this is mostly deserved but a little over the top...... and then sox fans are going out of their way to overtroll the cubs fans in the hopes that shit hits the fan (TOMORROW PER RANGER JUST NOW! LOL) wednesday and getting out in front of this and yeah, i get where they're coming from and quite honestly this is the beauty of the rivalry.... but i think given the burgeoning cubpacalypse on our hands both sides are too eager to get in each other's faces like NYAH NYAH NYAH so no matter what happens on wednesday, the shit's gonna go down. and if the cubs dont lose wednesday this will continue on building up to a fever pitch if/when the cubs face elimination over the next few weeks.... and one side will claim victory with another side saying wait til next year, and of coruse if the cubs win the championship this year i think the sox fans will face SOOOOOO much shit that they won't just have egg on their face, they'll have their whole head up a chicken's ass.
TLDR = both sides are being overzealous and bringing out the worst stereotypes of each respective fandom, and right now both sides are over the level they should be at IMO, but in the end i think both sides are right that the other side is being annoying.... except that cubs fans' annoyingness is technically understated and more smarmy and subtle and implied and thusly pedantic, whereas sox fans are wearing their hearts on their sleeve and not even bothering with trying to hide/suppress it like cubs fans have been doing all year, and that's either really gallant or really stupid/unsophisticated depending on how you look at it._________________
Curious Hair wrote:
Les Grobstein's huge hog is proof that God has a sense of humor, isn't it?
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