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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:50 pm 
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And now Bernsien is silent....


I don't think he's silent at all. If he was really interested in learning from this, he'd be examining his role in pushing a narrative instead of waiting for facts, but instead, I expect more of these passive aggressive comments (like the most recent from his fake sources in his twitter feed). I definitely don't expect him, if asked, to admit he's been wrong or inaccurate in anything he has said or "reported" on in this story, nor will his update lady, or anyone else at the station.


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I has a question.

If a rape did occur and the rapist is not Kane and we know all who were present, why isn't someone being charged?

I believe the accuser named Kane as the "rapist" specifically. Why would they charge anyone else?


because the evidence points to another. Was she only raped if it was Kane?

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She lawyered up before talking to the police (criminal defense).

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In whatever reality she appears to live in , yes.

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last night he started talking about kanatics and how awful they were on twitter. deflecting the disgust to them to rosenbloom during the night transition. i could almost feel rosenbloom want to lash out but not. like his response was "i dont' know how to feel either" when i feel he meant to say "you almost sound as if you hoped that a rape had happened danny"


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Seriously, what's worse, attacking a woman who has claimed to be raped or condemning an possibly innocent person? This is the problem with the media. It's why we have a legal system, and even that system gets it wrong in many cases. It's terrible if people attack a victim because she is accusing their "hero", but it is pretty bad to convict someone before there is anything resembling real evidence.

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Seriously, what's worse, attacking a woman who has claimed to be raped or condemning an possibly innocent person? This is the problem with the media. It's why we have a legal system, and even that system gets it wrong in many cases. It's terrible if people attack a victim because she is accusing their "hero", but it is pretty bad to convict someone before there is anything resembling real evidence.


The thing is, if she made the shit up, she's the criminal. And her mother (Or whoever planted evidence, I'm not convinced it wasn't her. Regardless, it was certainly done on her behalf.) is the only clear criminal in the case. But it's become anathema to suggest a woman might lie about a sexual assault. "Women don't lie about rape" is a mantra. Except for the pesky fact that once in awhile they do.

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Seriously, what's worse, attacking a woman who has claimed to be raped or condemning an possibly innocent person? This is the problem with the media. It's why we have a legal system, and even that system gets it wrong in many cases. It's terrible if people attack a victim because she is accusing their "hero", but it is pretty bad to convict someone before there is anything resembling real evidence.


The thing is, if she made the shit up, she's the criminal. And her mother (Or whoever planted evidence, I'm not convinced it wasn't her. Regardless, it was certainly done on her behalf.) is the only clear criminal in the case. But it's become anathema to suggest a woman might lie about a sexual assault. "Women don't lie about rape" is a mantra. Except for the pesky fact that once in awhile they do.

Why the reluctance to say that though? It seems that he and DiCaro are tripping over themselves to say anything BUT that when its looking more and more like its the only real possibility. Do they really think people are that fucking ignorant ?

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How dumb must she (or her family) be to come at the King of Buffalo in his own damn backyard? If you're going to try and frame someone up maybe don't do it in a place where your target has an immeasurable amount of clout.

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How dumb must she (or her family) be to come at the King of Buffalo in his own damn backyard? If you're going to try and frame someone up maybe don't do it in a place where your target has an immeasurable amount of clout.

Huh? What does where this happened have anything to do with a false allegation? Youre making it seem like the "authorities" are trying extra hard to exonerate him because he's from there. That's ridiculous

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Dan said yesterday that she dropped the case because of at least three "credible" death threats and was considering moving from the area...so again, implying Kane's guilt. He also speculated that Kane might soon be engaged, solely to rehabilitate his image ala Roethlisberger.

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Looks like the DA found NOTHING happened

http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/ ... f-20151105


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good dolphin wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
I has a question.

If a rape did occur and the rapist is not Kane and we know all who were present, why isn't someone being charged?

I believe the accuser named Kane as the "rapist" specifically. Why would they charge anyone else?


because the evidence points to another. Was she only raped if it was Kane?




No rape ever occurred, this dirty bitch went out for the night with jizz infused panties and pubes...just like Kobe's accuser..dirty dirty girls.

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badrogue17 wrote:
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denisdman wrote:
Seriously, what's worse, attacking a woman who has claimed to be raped or condemning an possibly innocent person? This is the problem with the media. It's why we have a legal system, and even that system gets it wrong in many cases. It's terrible if people attack a victim because she is accusing their "hero", but it is pretty bad to convict someone before there is anything resembling real evidence.


The thing is, if she made the shit up, she's the criminal. And her mother (Or whoever planted evidence, I'm not convinced it wasn't her. Regardless, it was certainly done on her behalf.) is the only clear criminal in the case. But it's become anathema to suggest a woman might lie about a sexual assault. "Women don't lie about rape" is a mantra. Except for the pesky fact that once in awhile they do.

Why the reluctance to say that though? It seems that he and DiCaro are tripping over themselves to say anything BUT that when its looking more and more like its the only real possibility. Do they really think people are that fucking ignorant ?



Well, they're dug in so deep they would look foolish to back off now.

Also, there are several different agendas at work here. For bernstein, it's a golden opporunity to take down a hockey player and by extension the Blackhawks organization and the entire NHL. We talk about people here who would trade lives with bernstein, I don't doubt for a minute that bernstein would trade lives with Kane, though he would never admit it. And so he revels in his schadenfraude. It allows him not to think about all the things he would like to be and isn't.

As far as DiCaro is concerned, it's part of a larger conversation on sexual politics and social justice. A cheap and easy opportunity to howl, "RAPE CULTURE!" She lives in a new feminist world where women have neither agency nor responsibility, without realizing that such a world is necessarily more patriarchal than what we would call traditional patriarchy. This "feminism" has expanded the definition of rape to include thoughtless boyfriends who get their rocks off and roll over to sleep before their partner has orgasmed.

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No charges because the DA knows she lied.

I did notice that the paper didn't use Tim Graham on the story LOL They know
he was a shill, just as Sports Mockery has pointed out.

http://sportsmockery.com/2015/10/patric ... pped-soon/


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Anyone want to do a well being check on Stink?


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No charges because the DA knows she lied.

I did notice that the paper didn't use Tim Graham on the story LOL They know
he was a shill, just as Sports Mockery has pointed out.

http://sportsmockery.com/2015/10/patric ... pped-soon/



Graham should probably be fired. He certainly damaged the credibility of his newspaper. bernstein is a different animal. He's a shock jock, and really should not be taken seriously. As far as DiCaro is concerned, the higher ups at the Score probably should have told her that if you want to work here you should just read the updates and keep your opinions on the matter to yourself.

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Anyone want to do a well being check on Stink?


He made his bed, he can lie in it with the rest of the SJW's. When I go to a site to read about a hockey team, I go to read about the team on the ice and the upcoming game, not about how much of a douchebag certain players are, or how I should feel as a fan of said team.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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No charges because the DA knows she lied.

I did notice that the paper didn't use Tim Graham on the story LOL They know
he was a shill, just as Sports Mockery has pointed out.

http://sportsmockery.com/2015/10/patric ... pped-soon/



Graham should probably be fired. He certainly damaged the credibility of his newspaper. bernstein is a different animal. He's a shock jock, and really should not be taken seriously. As far as DiCaro is concerned, the higher ups at the Score probably should have told her that if you want to work here you should just read the updates and keep your opinions on the matter to yourself.


Actually, it seemed to me that Bernsie sucked her into it and she was off.

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Interesting that Julie is not doing updates today. The day in which the DA says there was insufficient evidence against Kane. I'm sure that would sting her to read that during her updates. Perhaps she should just stick to reading her shitty updates and stay off Twitter for a while.

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Some suicidal Berwynian fucked up her train line.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

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Some suicidal Berwynian fucked up her train line.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html


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Dan said yesterday that she dropped the case because of at least three "credible" death threats and was considering moving from the area...so again, implying Kane's guilt. He also speculated that Kane might soon be engaged, solely to rehabilitate his image ala Roethlisberger.


Don't you think the DA and police would be on that and not drop the case if there truly were serious threats
to Hayley.
Just more Bernstein lies.


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Dan said yesterday that she dropped the case because of at least three "credible" death threats and was considering moving from the area...so again, implying Kane's guilt. He also speculated that Kane might soon be engaged, solely to rehabilitate his image ala Roethlisberger.


Don't you think the DA and police would be on that and not drop the case if there truly were serious threats
to Hayley.
Just more Bernstein lies.


Did the perpetrators say they knew what door she used at work?

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I thought I saw that the DA referred to this as a "so-called" rape case.

Is that true?

Because, really, if he's actually utilizing the phrase "so-called", then I'm actually inclined to think this was basically all ginned-up rather than a case of a number of shitty people doing shitty things and then someone getting shitty about it afterwards.

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yep, his comments really show that this was a trumped up charge.

from the Trib

"In a strongly worded statement Thursday morning, Buffalo-area prosecutors shredded the accuser's allegation, saying there was no proof that she had been raped. They also suggested that Kane never behaved as if he had committed a crime — though he never spoke with authorities and has maintained an unusually low profile since the investigation began.


Without providing details, Erie County District Attorney Frank Sedita III said there were "significant material inconsistencies" between the woman's claims and those of other witnesses. He also said the physical evidence and forensic evidence "tend to contradict" her allegation that a rape took place in Kane's bed — where she apparently said it occurred.

Investigators said there was no proof she had been penetrated, an element that is required under New York law to bring a rape charge.



Though Kane "exercised" his right not to speak with investigators, Sedita said, the player never made any incriminating statements to witnesses and has not "engaged in any conduct consistent with the consciousness of guilt."

"The totality of the credible evidence — the proof — does not sufficiently substantiate the complainant's allegation that she was raped by Patrick Kane and this so-called 'case' is rife with reasonable doubt," Sedita said in the statement."


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Some suicidal Berwynian fucked up her train line.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

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The fact that adults. ADULTS can still sit here today and think she didn't make this up is boggling my mind.

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Dan did everything to make Kane guilty but say "guilty". Remember "you are not allowed to not believe her"? I txted it so Spiegs would see it but doubt it gets seen. Ugh.

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