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This isn't the end, of course. It just means the conversation will shift to how women who are raped are intimidated out of justice, which happens, but probably not with this gal. #frankseditaisnotyourfriend

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Does any part of this end with Tim Graham blowing his brains out in a seedy motel in downtown Buffalo?

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Kane wins!

There's at least 8 board members who would trade lives with him

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SJW Julie is getting slapped around on Twitter LOL

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SJW Julie is getting slapped around on Twitter LOL

https://twitter.com/JulieDiCaro



You know, she is going to spin it into women getting bullied.


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SJW Julie is getting slapped around on Twitter LOL

https://twitter.com/JulieDiCaro



You know, she is going to spin it into women getting bullied.

She already has. Some mention about there's websites out there dedicated to SHAMING his accuser. Other people just use Twitter to further their agenda.

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SJW Julie is getting slapped around on Twitter LOL

https://twitter.com/JulieDiCaro


quick look at her timeline shows just as many people preemptively apologizing to her for replies than actual mean replies.


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SJW Julie is getting slapped around on Twitter LOL

https://twitter.com/JulieDiCaro


quick look at her timeline shows just as many people preemptively apologizing to her for replies than actual mean replies.

She's male Rongey.

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Julie DiCaro ‏@JulieDiCaro 37m37 minutes ago
Thinking Dusty Baker is not a good hire does not make me a 'Dusty hater.'


However, saying Patrick Kane might not be guilty when he hasn't been charged with anything makes you a supporter of rape culture.


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Reared on the Score wrote:
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SJW Julie is getting slapped around on Twitter LOL

https://twitter.com/JulieDiCaro


quick look at her timeline shows just as many people preemptively apologizing to her for replies than actual mean replies.


You might want to try the timeline again :D


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The worst thing about this case is that Sports Mockery was the most accurate source in Chicago


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Not surprisingly, 2 days after his election Sedita has announced today that Kane won't be charged due to lack of evidence.

Cambria saying that he expects the lying Caller Bob to file a civil suit. Smart move by her, her lawyers know that no matter how much she is full of shit it still makes sense for Kane to throw some money at her rather than have this whole thing become a courthouse circus show.

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Not surprisingly, 2 days after his election Sedita has announced today that Kane won't be charged due to lack of evidence.

Cambria saying that he expects the lying Caller Bob to file a civil suit. Smart move by her, her lawyers know that no matter how much she is full of shit it still makes sense for Kane to throw some money at her rather than have this whole thing become a courthouse circus show.


Oh I don't know, looking at Kane's history on and off the ice he may see this as another challenge to accomplish and may direct his counsel to fight this out in court. Let her bring it and allow him to prove what he stated in South Bend during training camp.

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Hayley Pandolfi's name needs to be blasted across social media


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Not surprisingly, 2 days after his election Sedita has announced today that Kane won't be charged due to lack of evidence.

Cambria saying that he expects the lying Caller Bob to file a civil suit. Smart move by her, her lawyers know that no matter how much she is full of shit it still makes sense for Kane to throw some money at her rather than have this whole thing become a courthouse circus show.


Oh I don't know. Looking at Kane's history on and off the ice he may see this as another challenge to accomplish and may direct his counsel to fight this out in court...let her bring it and allow him to prove what he stated in South Bend during training camp.


A case can drag out for years (you know this Shakes). With that advantage I am guessing Kane can drag this out forever and she may give up. If I am correct nothing circus like can come out until a discovery/deposition occurs. He can wait her out up until that point then settle if he wants without damage.

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But won't those same "death threats" still be there ? If she's so fucking terrified of a criminal case she"lll put herself through the same ringer as long as there's a payday? Doesn't lend a whole lot of credibility to her story does it?

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Harvard Dan wrote:
shakes wrote:
Not surprisingly, 2 days after his election Sedita has announced today that Kane won't be charged due to lack of evidence.

Cambria saying that he expects the lying Caller Bob to file a civil suit. Smart move by her, her lawyers know that no matter how much she is full of shit it still makes sense for Kane to throw some money at her rather than have this whole thing become a courthouse circus show.


Oh I don't know. Looking at Kane's history on and off the ice he may see this as another challenge to accomplish and may direct his counsel to fight this out in court...let her bring it and allow him to prove what he stated in South Bend during training camp.


A case can drag out for years (you know this Shakes). With that advantage I am guessing Kane can drag this out forever and she may give up. If I am correct nothing circus like can come out until a discovery/deposition occurs. He can wait her out up until that point then settle if he wants without damage.


Kane can't drag it out forever and even if he could, I don't see how that is a disadvantage to the girl? The longer this is going on the longer Kane has to deal with the scrutiny.

She still has some leverage here. The last thing Kane wants is for this bitch to get her day in court or get to do a deposition and then she can give her bat shit crazy account of what happened that night. She's going to testify in open court that Patrick Kane raped her. Even though reasonable people know that's not true, there are still plenty of people out there who will spin it to make Kane look like the bad guy. Of course, throwing settlement money at her might also cause some shortsighted people to look at Kane as if he is a guilty party so either way, any sort of civil suit is bad news for Kane.

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Remember, everyone should just "move on" now. Bobby Knuckles took to twitter and Tim Graham ( gasp) last night to air some gripes. Looks to me like he's itching to get sued.
The Patrick Kane case has officially concluded now that the Erie County District Attorney decided to drop the investigation. After citing “significant material inconsistencies” in the accuser’s version of the night when compared to others, Frank Sedita announced (via press release) that this “so-called case” was over. It was also revealed that the accuser signed a “non-prosecution affidavit” towards the end of the investigation preventing her from going after Kane in the future (criminally).

“She has recently signed what is commonly referred to as a “Non-Prosecution Affidavit” that states, in relevant part: ‘That after fully discussing all the circumstances with my attorney, I have decided I do not wish to criminally prosecute the charges which stem out of this investigation. I do so of my own free will and without any promises or compensation,’” Sedita said.(Buffalo News)
According to the accuser’s father this is a lie, and it’s one of many. After a long Twitter rant last night, the accuser’s father (who will remain unnamed) indicated that this case stinks of conspiracy and a lot of it comes down to Kane simply being rich.


When reading through all of his tweets, he indicates that he thinks Mark Croce, the SkyBar owner, was paid off and the DNA results were bogus.

Here’s a few other quotes:

Croce recanted and again Kane’s paid employees statement should have no relevance time for bed good night
the bar owner who was having a Stanley cup shindig @ that bar the next week and a paid by Kane driver/bodyguard?
that’s not the DNA report that’s the DAs statement
have you seen it? You comment as if you have (DNA)
when puck boy can write a $2 million check as a retainer ‘funny’ things can happen
Here’s the kicker though … he’s also said they (accuser’s party) never made the decision to drop the case.


This Twitter rant basically called the Erie County District Attorney, now New York Supreme Court Judge, Sedita, a liar. Obviously any father involved in a situation like this is liable to say just about anything to back his daughter, and most would.

But calling one of the most powerful men in New York a liar isn’t very smart….

This is the same guy who posted a picture of a huge butcher knife, wearing all black, on his Facebook page indicating he was going to kill someone. That post was followed by many other innuendos of conspiracy and threats to hurt people.

According to him though, it will all be exposed soon enough.



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According to the accuser’s father this is a lie, and it’s one of many. After a long Twitter rant last night, the accuser’s father (who will remain unnamed) indicated that this case stinks of conspiracy and a lot of it comes down to Kane simply being rich.


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Nice synopsis of Seditas interview. Wish they would've asked him when he receives the payoff .


Kane Case Conclusions
So let’s recap: on August 1st, Patrick Kane was out late with friends at a bar near Buffalo. He, a male friend, and two girls went back to his house early in the morning, driven by an off-duty cop who works as a driver for Kane. Several hours later, one of the girls went to a local hospital with her mother, claiming that Kane had followed her into his bedroom at the house, overpowered her, and raped her. She had a rape kit done (a collection of physical and forensic evidence) and gave a statement to the police.

A three-month investigation ensued, led by a female prosecutor from the local special victims unit. The two lead detectives were a former captain from the state police and a female detective with experience working in the sex crimes unit. Possibly worth noting, Buffalo is the second-largest city in New York State, and Erie County has a population of just under a million people, so this is not small town justice; police and prosecutors will have had experience working on a wide variety of murder, rape, and other major felony cases.

Ultimately, the prosecutor and the district attorney closed the investigation without bringing it before a grand jury or filing any charges, stating that the evidence did not substantiate the allegations. The DA did not have to release any information or make any detailed statements about the investigation, but he chose to do so, repeatedly stating that he felt it was his office’s responsibility both to prosecute the guilty and to exonerate the innocent. His interviews are worth reading/watching, but here are the major points:

Detectives went to Kane’s house the day of the incident and collected evidence. They immediately noticed significant discrepencies between the woman’s story and the layout of Kane’s bedroom. Sedita (the DA) said that that alone was not conclusive, since trauma can impact someone’s memory of details, but it was their first indication that there might be issues with the accusation.

The accuser claimed to have been raped on Kane’s bed, but her DNA wasn’t found on any of the bedding, though there was DNA from Kane and another woman.

The accuser claimed to have been screaming during the assault, but the two other people in the house (one of whom was her friend) were in close proximity and didn’t hear anything.

The accuser’s friend generally didn’t support her account and retained her own attorney because the accuser was pressuring her to lie about what she’d seen and heard.

Detectives reviewed surveillance footage from the bar where they met and interviewed the bar employees and found contradictions with the accuser’s account of what happened there.

Kane’s DNA was found under the woman’s nails and on hickeys on her shoulder, but nowhere else on her body or her underwear. Sedita was clear that there was no evidence of penetration, which was what she alleged had happened.

As soon as the DNA results came back, the accuser and her attorney tried to suggest that they may have been tampered with. They were later involved in a public hoax in which they claimed the rape kit bag was left on her mother’s doorstep and the rape kit itself had been mishandled by the police (a very serious allegation of misconduct). The DA’s office provided clear evidence that the rape kit had never been in any bag, that there was video footage of the unbroken chain of custody of the rape kit, and that the bag had been given to the accuser’s mother at the hospital. The attorney stepped down from the case, saying that he had been misled. Sedita said that there was clear evidence the mother was part of the hoax, and that they suspected the daughter was as well but couldn’t prove it.

The hoax was revealed on September 25th, and detectives brought the accuser in for an interview on October 9th, which she cut short. She didn’t come in again until October 27th, at which point, she stated that she no longer wanted to cooperate with the investigation. She signed an affidavit to that effect, which included a statement that she had not been pressured or paid to drop the charges. Sedita confirmed that they could have gone forward anyway if they felt the case had merit and could simply have subpoenaed her to testify before the grand jury as they often do in domestic violence cases.

Kane, likely on his attorney’s advice, exercised his right not to speak to police or prosecutors about the case. They did get a search warrant for his cell phone and didn’t find any indications of guilt, though evidence from the accuser’s phone showed that she was interested in pursuing monetary settlement from the early stages of the investigation.

Sedita was ultimately as clear as he could be about the fact that the entire team of investigators felt there was no evidence to back up the allegations and significant evidence to contradict them. He said that the only reason he wasn’t comfortable stating that Kane was completely exonerated was because they never got his side of the story and thus don’t know what actually happened between the two, only what the evidence showed didn’t happen. He emphasized that the evidence was more consistent with innocence than with guilt.

When asked if he’d charge the accuser with filing a false report, Sedita said that they’d considered it but decided not to, primarily because Kane was never charged and the case didn’t go to trial.


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Source, please? Can't just [i]-tag.

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The accuser claimed to have been raped on Kane’s bed, but her DNA wasn’t found on any of the bedding, though there was DNA from Kane and another woman.

high five bro o/

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high five bro o/


no shit. :lol:

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Source, please? Can't just [i]-tag.

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The accuser claimed to have been raped on Kane’s bed, but her DNA wasn’t found on any of the bedding, though there was DNA from Kane and another woman.

high five bro o/

Source is Seditas interview. Someone just collated them.

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Well can we put to bed the no proof she lied and wanted money stuff now?

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Im re listening to the interviews now. I don't remember ever hearing about another woman's DNA , or that her party initiated any settlement talks based on her phone records.

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When this first broke, I fully believed the accuser had been raped (not necessarily Kane). It seems illogical to me that someone would have a rape kit performed if they were not raped. The accuser would know that the rape kit would come up negative and ruin her case. If someone wanted to extort money from an innocent person, I suspect there are better ways to do it.

Now if they had consensual sex, then getting a rape kit done might make sense because it would provide DNA evidence. The "ending" truly shocks me, and the world is a more jaded place because of incidents like this. No one wins.

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The accuser would know that the rape kit would come up negative and ruin her case. If someone wanted to extort money from an innocent person, I suspect there are better ways to do it.

She is obviously not very bright.

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When this first broke, I fully believed the accuser had been raped (not necessarily Kane). It seems illogical to me that someone would have a rape kit performed if they were not raped. The accuser would know that the rape kit would come up negative and ruin her case. If someone wanted to extort money from an innocent person, I suspect there are better ways to do it.


That's what I don't get either. The only thing I can think of is that she gambled on Kane throwing money at the problem to make it all go away before it got out that the tests came up false.

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The accuser would know that the rape kit would come up negative and ruin her case. If someone wanted to extort money from an innocent person, I suspect there are better ways to do it.

She is obviously not very bright.

The bag hoax made that point very clear


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A couple weeks into it, I heard from someone close to his agent that she asked for $1mil to make it all go away...because it came from someone close to Kane, I figured I'd take that info with a big grain of salt and not repeat it.

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