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It should be no problem becoming outraged, it is pretty popular in today's society. I have faith in you. Amen


Feels like too much effort.

I prefer to be on the side that makes fun of the people who are outraged over crap.

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"I personally have had professors insist that a woman is responsible for her own rape."



A woman is never responsible for her own rape. But she is responsible for her own safety. If not, who does she feel is responsible for it?

Let's not confuse pointing out stupidity with "victim blaming". I have every right in the world to stand out on the corner of Ashland and Howard waving stacks of hundred dollar bills in the air and screaming, "LOOK AT MY MONEY, MOTHERFUCKERS!" That doesn't mean I "deserve" to be robbed or that the guys who whack me on the head and take that cash are less than criminal. But I highly doubt I will find much sympathy.


:lol: You are victim blaming and those 2 things are different. I've never had to worry about being raped and I doubt you have either. Females worry about it at an early age. Your car or clothes aren't a stack of cash but people are robbed because of those things daily.


Sounds like you are blaming robbery victims for being robbed.


Just the opposite.

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Hawg Ass wrote:
It should be no problem becoming outraged, it is pretty popular in today's society. I have faith in you. Amen


Feels like too much effort.

I prefer to be on the side that makes fun of the people who are outraged over crap.

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Hawg Ass wrote:
It should be no problem becoming outraged, it is pretty popular in today's society. I have faith in you. Amen


Feels like too much effort.

I prefer to be on the side that makes fun of the people who are outraged over crap.

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Purdue/Mitch Daniels:


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An adult on campus: Mitch Daniels’s letter to Purdue about protests

It deserves to be quoted at length: “Events this week at the University of Missouri and Yale University should remind us all of the importance of absolute fidelity to our shared values. First, that we strive constantly to be, without exception, a welcoming, inclusive and discrimination-free community, where each person is respected and treated with dignity. Second, to be steadfast in preserving academic freedom and individual liberty.

“Two years ago, a student-led initiative created the ‘We Are Purdue Statement of Values,’ which was subsequently endorsed by the University Senate. Last year, both our undergraduate and graduate student governments led an effort that produced a strengthened statement of policies protecting free speech. What a proud contrast to the environments that appear to prevail at places like Missouri and Yale. Today and every day, we should remember the tenets of those statements and do our best to live up to them fully.”

So a commitment to tolerance can coexist on campus with a commitment to free speech and open debate. What a concept.

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So is the story making the rounds about the dude making up the KKK threats true?

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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... on/415254/

I thought this was a pretty good article about the protests.

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In January of 1987, flyers distributed anonymously at the University of Michigan declared “open season” on black people, referring to them with the most disgusting racial slurs.

25 years later, it would be open season on pittmike. #progress?

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So is the story making the rounds about the dude making up the KKK threats true?


Narrative, BRogue!

Try to keep up!

Plus, if anyone knows what the KKK is up to it's SomeGuy.


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Look for this kind of garbage to start sweeping the nation, like a firestorm.


Firestorm, that's a hell of a picture!


Not as good as Death Blow.

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badrogue17 wrote:
So is the story making the rounds about the dude making up the KKK threats true?


Narrative, BRogue!

Try to keep up!

Plus, if anyone knows what the KKK is up to it's SomeGuy.


What are the KKK up to? Asking for a friend.

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Loyola, too. And they seem to be making the same mistakes the folks at Missouri did:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

Organizers led students in a brief march around campus in which they chanted, "Not just Mizzou, it's Loyola too!" before stopping at Halas field, where they locked hands and members of The Black Tribune asked the media, not including those from their own publication, to stand outside the perimeter.


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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/race-and-the-anti-free-speech-diversion/415254/

I thought this was a pretty good article about the protests.

Thanks for sharing that--that was a needed counter to this idea that free speech is overtaking other (racial) issues. So much silencing goes on in academia....


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LOYOLA UNIVERSITY - CHICAGO

Groups, including many student activists of color, carried signs reading "Black Lives Matter" and rallied against gentrification they feel is happening in the Rogers Park neighborhood.

So we have now connected development with the Mizzou issue.

Congrats.

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Whatever gentrification there's been in East Rogers Park, there hasn't been enough.

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LOYOLA UNIVERSITY - CHICAGO

Groups, including many student activists of color, carried signs reading "Black Lives Matter" and rallied against gentrification they feel is happening in the Rogers Park neighborhood.

So we have now connected development with the Mizzou issue.

Congrats.

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HO-LEEE SHIT...from the student body whose university is co developing a hotel who will exclude union workers.

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Cant think of an entity that has more to do with gentrification and might benefit more than Loyola, itself from such improvements of Rogers Park as well

How someone lets that be part of the message sent out is amazing.

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Whatever gentrification there's been in East Rogers Park, there hasn't been enough.



We don't gentrify. Too many courtyard buildings, Muslims, and other weirdos. However, Cary's has been cleaned up and has added a long list of craft beers to its menu.

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Whatever gentrification there's been in East Rogers Park, there hasn't been enough.



We don't gentrify. Too many courtyard buildings, Muslims, and other weirdos. However, Cary's has been cleaned up and has added a long list of craft beers to its menu.

I'll never understand Rogers Park. Can you explain why? I'd be interested in hearing.


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 Post subject: Re: Mizzou Protest
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Grab a seat at the heartland Cafe, someone will be glad to explain it to you while you chomp down on a black bean burger. Be careful, you might need to duck due to the drug dealing on the corner, but dont worry about it, he is part of the neighborhood, so whatever he does is OK....

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Grab a seat at the heartland Cafe, someone will be glad to explain it to you while you chomp down on a black bean burger. Be careful, you might need to duck due to the drug dealing on the corner, but dont worry about it, he is part of the neighborhood, so whatever he does is OK....


:lol: That's right. We'll have him paint a mural between drug deals. My guy!

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I went to Heartland with some of my friends on a few occasions when I was a student there in the late 80s. It got shut down for a bit a few years ago for health code violations.


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Grab a seat at the heartland Cafe, someone will be glad to explain it to you while you chomp down on a black bean burger. Be careful, you might need to duck due to the drug dealing on the corner, but dont worry about it, he is part of the neighborhood, so whatever he does is OK....


As a former resident of East Rogers Park, the nature and tone of this conversation is making us feel unsafe. Our list of demands is as follows: 1. You will create a safe space for marginalized posters immediately. 2. Said safe space will be stocked with fresh, organic, locally grown produce. 3. A Zero-tolerance policy toward bias of any kind will be instituted immediately; any violations of this policy will be met with immediate, permanent expulsion. 4. Because bigfan's input is not desired, he will resign leadership of this board immediately. 5. A committee comprised exclusively of marginalized posters will be established immediately and make all future decisions pertaining to the mission of this board. 6. To let you know I am serious, I will not eat anything until all of the aformentioned demands are met.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the only real "bad" parts of Rogers Park is in two places...the square two block area on Howard between Paulina to Ashland and the Jonquil/Juneway Terraces....and the other being right around the Morse Red Line stop.

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Used to live right off of Howard and Callan. Couldn't actually speak to how bad the area was as we didn't go out much due to all the sceery black people around.

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The area around Jarvis seems fine to me.

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Correct me if I'm wrong.

We don't really do that around here.

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Correct me if I'm wrong.

We don't really do that around here.

Only the ones we don't like. Everyone likes me.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the only real "bad" parts of Rogers Park is in two places...the square two block area on Howard between Paulina to Ashland and the Jonquil/Juneway Terraces....and the other being right around the Morse Red Line stop.



It's hard for me to say because I spent so much time there growing up, but I'd say nothing on any part of Howard is too good. Guys get shot near Devon and Western all the time. Morse is a lot better than it once was, but still not the safest spot in the City. That area of Chicago north of Howard, what we used to just call "Juneway" is as bad as ever, I think.

This guy is from Birchwood and Damen. I don't take him seriously, but he's fun to follow:

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