THAT AIN'T TRUE! Pts/gm:

2007-08: .844
2008-09: .841
2009-10: .894
2010-11: .950
2011-12: .966 (season ended early with a concussion)
2012-13: 1.021 (48-game season)
2013-14: .894
2014-15: .814
2015-16: .666
Career: .889

Toews has consistently played at at least a 68-point pace and averages about 72. Figuring that scoring more or less normalized in 07-08 after those two wackadoodle power-play seasons out of the lockout, 70 points year-in-year-out for a guy who gives you as much as Toews does on defense is really good. No, it's not Ovechkin production, but X-Box controller disconnected and all that jazz. 55 points, on the other hand, is cause for concern in concert with the league's highest cap hit. I think he'll will himself to breaking 60 by the end of the year if he stays healthy, but I'm sorry, that still feels low for his salary. I'm not asking for 100 points from Toews, just his usual 72 or so, and I don't think that's an outlandish demand. I hope that his body isn't betraying him at 27; he has, after all, had some bad concussions and a lot of hard miles.

How many games have the Hawks played? No reason to believe he won't go through a hot stretch at some point.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

THAT AIN'T TRUE! Pts/gm:

2007-08: .844
2008-09: .841
2009-10: .894
2010-11: .950
2011-12: .966 (season ended early with a concussion)
2012-13: 1.021 (48-game season)
2013-14: .894
2014-15: .814
2015-16: .666
Career: .889

Toews has consistently played at at least a 68-point pace and averages about 72. Figuring that scoring more or less normalized in 07-08 after those two wackadoodle power-play seasons out of the lockout, 70 points year-in-year-out for a guy who gives you as much as Toews does on defense is really good. No, it's not Ovechkin production, but X-Box controller disconnected and all that jazz. 55 points, on the other hand, is cause for concern in concert with the league's highest cap hit. I think he'll will himself to breaking 60 by the end of the year if he stays healthy, but I'm sorry, that still feels low for his salary. I'm not asking for 100 points from Toews, just his usual 72 or so, and I don't think that's an outlandish demand. I hope that his body isn't betraying him at 27; he has, after all, had some bad concussions and a lot of hard miles.

Gustafsson (I have no earthly idea where he came from)

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

lol at the turn this thread took where I celebrated Toews's high scoring and still got yelled at

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

Maybe Madden was a little severe. But he's only on pace for 55 points. Perhaps "a Brendan Morrison who makes $10,500,000 a year"?

His wife was pregnant back in Phoenix and he wasn't happy about being taken away from his family at that time. I really think he was content to play out the string in Phoenix, to just show up to work and do his job in relative obscurity. Now take all that family stress and add on top of it that now you're being asked to be the secret weapon down the stretch for a major-market team that's missing its best scorer but still intends to win the Stanley Cup. Oh, and your contract is up at the end of June and you're in your early thirties. All of a sudden there's enormous pressure on you to perform, your new coach hasn't conferred unwavering trust on you to say the very least, your new captain seems to have a steel pole up his ass, and you can't just peace out and play golf in obscurity. That's your whole life changing overnight. Did he contribute to winning the Stanley Cup? Absolutely, but not without some serious bumps along the way that certainly ended up compromising his market value. Now he's back with the Coyotes where no one can ask too much of him.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

Q plays a system

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

I'm more inclined to blame poor coach-player relations on Vermette than on Q. If you as a two-way center with 11 years in the NHL can't immediately gain the trust of Joel Quenneville of all people, that's on you, bro.

Forget the 2nd rd pick, ask them to take Bicks!

Bickell is tearing it up in Rockford.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

The Committed Indian ‏@RealFansProgram 30m30 minutes ago
JULY: HEY I TINK DAT DALEYMAN CAN DO EVERYTING DAT ODUYAMAN DID BUT NOT CUZ DERE BOTH BLACK OR ANYTING
DECEMBER: MAYBE SCUDERI CAN HELP...

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

wow they gave up on Daley quick.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

Trae Young will be a bust. Book It!

Great move for the Hawks, making the best of a bad situation. I expect Scuderi to sit in the press box for 95% of the season, spelling Rozy as our #6 here and there. Now we can bring up Gustafsson who is better than Daley. This move makes us better.

Big kudos to Stan who didn't let his ego get in the way of correcting a move he made only a few months ago. Lots of GMs would've insisted on seeing Daley play out a few more months before finally admitting it wasn't working. Instead Stan swallows his pride and cuts bait at the right time and now players like Gustaffson can get valuable experience and playing time before the post season.

Big kudos to Stan who didn't let his ego get in the way of correcting a move he made only a few months ago. Lots of GMs would've insisted on seeing Daley play out a few more months before finally admitting it wasn't working. Instead Stan swallows his pride and cuts bait at the right time and now players like Gustaffson can get valuable experience and playing time before the post season.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.