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I feel good not being on the side of Elmhurst Steve and Donald Trump here. You can learn a lot by your positions by paying attention to who else is advocating them.


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Who is being ignorant? I know this topic inside out. I'm not saying that no Christians have ever acted badly. I'm saying those actions are not supported by doctrine the way they are in Islam. When you keep insisting otherwise you come off as an apologist or a dupe, one or the other.

I just provided the doctrine.

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I just provided the doctrine.
God realized his mistake and changed it though.

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The planet earth is huge with many islands. Find an island,move them there,build housing and a Nike factory. They would be all set.


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Have to leave here for a while...some stoopid mother fuckers on here

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None of the 8 French-Belgium whackjobs were on our Watch list, they could have just as easily boarded a flight to The US and did the same thing.. Its not hard to sneak into the Country and even easier to grab a tourist visa.. There is absolutely no need to sneak in with Syrian refugees to get get drilled by the state department and FBI ... There are easier ways to .

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None of the 8 French-Belgium whackjobs were on our Watch list, they could have just as easily boarded a flight to The US and did the same thing.. Its not hard to sneak into the Country and even easier to grab a tourist visa.. There is absolutely no need to sneak in with Syrian refugees to get get drilled by the state department and FBI ... There are easier ways to .

And that's the whole country. It's hilarious hearing these Governors try to talk all tough about "we won't allow them in OUR state!" The fuck they gonna do to stop it? I can get in my car and drive to any state in the continental United States right now. They will have the same option.

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California has border stations on I-5, I-10, I-8, I-80 and US-6. They are mandatory. Florida has a couple too (75 and 95 IIRC, I didn't run to FL often.)


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California has border stations on I-5, I-10, I-8, I-80 and US-6. They are mandatory. Florida has a couple too (75 and 95 IIRC, I didn't run to FL often.)

I hate to speak on such an important topic without being 100 percent certain of the facts, but something tells me there are other roads that go in and out of California and Florida.


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That's a completely reasonable post. But you can't talk about staying true to our values and then wanting to close off our borders completely. The terrorists are doing their best to make us abandon our values, and way too many of our citizens are all too happy to oblige. It's more disheartening than the attack itself was.


I've never expressed such a position. Immigration is important. Especially when native-born Americans aren't having children the way they once did. Immigrants keep a country thriving, especially this country.

You're right, that was shitty wording on my part. Is it fair to say you are ok with not letting any Muslims in, at least for the time being? Or is it specifically Syrian refugees?


I don't know. But I can tell you for certain I have no desire to live in a country, a state, or a municipality that is majority Muslim. And I think non-Muslims who equate Islam in 2015 with other religions of today, would find out pretty quickly that they don't want to either.

If we can draw a real distinction between Muslims and Islam, I have no problem. I've known many Muslims that I've liked on a personal level. But their commitment to Islam- or rather lack thereof- was such that it made that possible.


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California has border stations on I-5, I-10, I-8, I-80 and US-6. They are mandatory. Florida has a couple too (75 and 95 IIRC, I didn't run to FL often.)

I hate to speak on such an important topic without being 100 percent certain of the facts, but something tells me there are other roads that go in and out of California and Florida.

There aren't too many roads into California. The terrain getting into the state from OR and NV is brutal, very expensive road building, and there are absolutely no people living out there. The West is a very different place, mind you. So yea, I'd assume there are a couple roads you could use (probably from AZ) but you are conspicuous just traveling on them because they only serve about 50 cars daily.

The check station off US-6 was only open a few times out of the many I made the crossing there.


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Fuck those people.

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I don't know if the people of Mumbai are representative of how the majority feel ( i don't think they are) but it is good to see.


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That's cool of them to come out and denounce ISIS publicly. Shouldn't be necessary. But then the Republican candidate for President as recently as 2008 said President Obama couldn't be a Muslim cuz "he's a good family man".

A little bit of extra risk involved in an actual Muslim taking ISIS to task vs non-Muslims. I guess if you're a Christian inside the Caliphate, ISIS won't decapitate you, as long as you pony up. Whereas Muslims who don't adhere to ISIS's fuckery get whacked.

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Following takfiri doctrine, the Islamic State is committed to purifying the world by killing vast numbers of people. The lack of objective reporting from its territory makes the true extent of the slaughter unknowable, but social-media posts from the region suggest that individual executions happen more or less continually, and mass executions every few weeks. Muslim “apostates” are the most common victims. Exempted from automatic execution, it appears, are Christians who do not resist their new government. Baghdadi permits them to live, as long as they pay a special tax, known as the jizya, and acknowledge their subjugation. The Koranic authority for this practice is not in dispute.


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MUSLIMS NEVER DENOUNCE ISIS!!!

(Shows link to Muslims denouncing ISIS)

Those are the good ones. Probably not the majority though.

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I've never expressed such a position. Immigration is important. Especially when native-born Americans aren't having children the way they once did. Immigrants keep a country thriving, especially this country.[/quote]
You're right, that was shitty wording on my part. Is it fair to say you are ok with not letting any Muslims in, at least for the time being? Or is it specifically Syrian refugees?[/quote]

I don't know. But I can tell you for certain I have no desire to live in a country, a state, or a municipality that is majority Muslim. And I think non-Muslims who equate Islam in 2015 with other religions of today, would find out pretty quickly that they don't want to either.

If we can draw a real distinction between Muslims and Islam, I have no problem. I've known many Muslims that I've liked on a personal level. But their commitment to Islam- or rather lack thereof- was such that it made that possible.[/quote]

Avoid Bridgeview.[/quote]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
MUSLIMS NEVER DENOUNCE ISIS!!!

(Shows link to Muslims denouncing ISIS)

Those are the good ones. Probably not the majority though.

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This guy get's it!

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MUSLIMS NEVER DENOUNCE ISIS!!!

(Shows link to Muslims denouncing ISIS)

Those are the good ones. Probably not the majority though.


Mumbai has had their fair share of terrorist activity over the last 20 years. I don't think they have much tolerence for the muslim extremists. The last 2 have been within the last 7 years or so.


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I'm also suspicious that such an overwhelming number are men in their 20s. Where are the all the female refugees?


http://fee.org/anythingpeaceful/who-are ... -refugees/

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This is the demographic information on all 2,234 Syrian refugees admitted to the United States from October 2010 through November 2015, according to the Refugee Processing Center. .... Males aged 14-30, the most potentially dangerous group, are 13 percent of all Syrian refugees.


I realize that this is not the exact same demographics we would be looking at right now, but I do believe it's a more accurate baseline than simply guessing based on sensationalized media reporting.

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I love how this shit is pitched to us like we're turning down women and children yet like 75% of these ppl coming into Europe are men of fighting/breeding age.

Its obvious to me that all this is being done to destabilize things one way or another (terrorism or "patriot groups" get ready and thus can be taken down) to get us to beg for a police state / total surveillance lockdown. There's too much to be made off of militarizing every PD and needing mad security devices everywhere, plus installing all this tech means the ppl in power will never be out of power.

Ah well, if they legalize weed someday it could be worse, eh?

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I love how this shit is pitched to us like we're turning down women and children yet like 75% of these ppl coming into Europe are men of fighting/breeding age.

Not even close to accurate.

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I love how this shit is pitched to us like we're turning down women and children yet like 75% of these ppl coming into Europe are men of fighting/breeding age.

Not even close to accurate.


If you love them so much why don't you volunteer to have them all over to your place and have them live with you?


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I love how this shit is pitched to us like we're turning down women and children yet like 75% of these ppl coming into Europe are men of fighting/breeding age.

Not even close to accurate.


If you love them so much why don't you volunteer to have them all over to your place and have them live with you?

Stop acting like a 5 year old. "If you love pizza so much then why don't you just marry it, huh? lolololol". You're a clown, bro. But I'd have no problem with refugees living in my apartment building or on my block.

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sinicalypse wrote:
I love how this shit is pitched to us like we're turning down women and children yet like 75% of these ppl coming into Europe are men of fighting/breeding age.

Not even close to accurate.


If you love them so much why don't you volunteer to have them all over to your place and have them live with you?

Stop acting like a 5 year old. "If you love pizza so much then why don't you just marry it, huh? lolololol". You're a clown, bro. But I'd have no problem with refugees living in my apartment building or on my block.


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Good info FF.

I still say no.

Not out of fear though.

We have our own citizens with problems. Let's fix that first.

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I love how this shit is pitched to us like we're turning down women and children yet like 75% of these ppl coming into Europe are men of fighting/breeding age.

Not even close to accurate.


thanks for the spirited NUH UH.... i've seen pictures of seemingly endless lines of mostly teenage/young-men streaming into europe, so while i'm sure that's not every situation... if you're going to poo-poo me for generalizing that it's mostly men of breeding/fighting age getting out of syria (and just how many as/syrians are there FFS? 500mil?) then i think at the same time you gotta admit that obama shaming us like we're turning down a majority of women and children is prolly equally bullshit with political spin in mind.... unless your NUH UH includes some studies that show some % of refugees are whatever..... but per usual a big fat NUH UH wins the day.

inb4 i'm bigoted and racist and xenophobic and etc =D

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Good info FF.

I still say no.

Not out of fear though.

We have our own citizens with problems. Let's fix that first.


Or what about the hundreds of Iraqis and Afganis who worked with us as interpreters who put their lives and the lives of their families on the line who are waiting to get in. These people who are refusing to fight for their own country should be allowed in before them?
Plus, We have to start putting a time limit on these"refugee". There is immigration and refugee status. It is becoming more and more that refuge is a backdoor immigration system to get around going through the checks and balances.

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sinicalypse wrote:
I love how this shit is pitched to us like we're turning down women and children yet like 75% of these ppl coming into Europe are men of fighting/breeding age.

Not even close to accurate.


thanks for the spirited NUH UH.... i've seen pictures of seemingly endless lines of mostly teenage/young-men streaming into europe, so while i'm sure that's not every situation... if you're going to poo-poo me for generalizing that it's mostly men of breeding/fighting age getting out of syria (and just how many as/syrians are there FFS? 500mil?) then i think at the same time you gotta admit that obama shaming us like we're turning down a majority of women and children is prolly equally bullshit with political spin in mind.... unless your NUH UH includes some studies that show some % of refugees are whatever..... but per usual a big fat NUH UH wins the day.

inb4 i'm bigoted and racist and xenophobic and etc =D

:lol: :lol:

Might want to scroll up, sini.

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