In theory? no one runs their business that way.

In practice/reality?


Sure, some smaller businesses, you might not have dead-weight or even actively negative to the job employees--at times--but over the life of any business/entity/org, you're going to have your Robbie Gould's--either bad hires, or good hires gone bad. Heck, didn't JORR say he had a 2 man business in which his partner was fucking up all the time? JORR didn't go sign his partner's brother out of the Arena League to replace him. I think he just set him up to get sent down-state for a few years.

The point of the thread is bringing in other kickers to see what is out there since Gould clearly is struggling.

Gould is due a roster bonus of $ 500,000, has a 4.1M cap hit next year and if they cut him they save 2.9M.

He's had a good/very good/great career but that is a lot of cash for a guy missing crucial field goals and who doesn't consistently kick the ball through the end zone on kick offs.

If they already had guys in camp, they'd have other options. Instead they let it ride, created no competition for Gould so all that was on his mind was the miss, and then boom, he misses again.

So do you pat him on the back and take a 4.1M cap hit for next year????

Sorry, I see what's out there and if anyone hungry comes in and makes a positive impression, you have to seriously consider cutting ties with Gould.

4.1M kickers need to produce at crunch time or you demoralize your team. Was it coincidence they came out flat today after Gould blew last weeks game after they beat Green Bay the previous week and had momentum???

Great...thanks for jumping in AFTER THE FACT

I wanted him traded Oct 4! When Teams needed Kickers!

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=96435&p=2327092&hilit=trade#p2327092

of course you cant trade his shit ass now....and it does help you find a new kicker for next year if you start looking now...

For about the 12th time...ITS HOW THE FOUND HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE!

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Bring back Paul Edinger...and while you're at it, Rex Grossman too!

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Lions have split place-kicking and kick-offs between 2 guys for years now. Bears should bring in a guy who can at least pin teams back on the 20 for kicks offs, and let Gould focus on getting his head / foot /whatever right in the place-kicking game.

But even on October 4th, what are you gonna get for him at his salary? Plus, they still would have NEEDED A KICKER!!! That is not exactly the time to decide that you need to change kickers, especially since back then he was at the top of his game, and that thought was furthest from anyone's mind, which is why I'm "jumping in AFTER THE FACT"

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Exactly. To insinuate that the team came out flat today due to Gould's misses last week is worthy.

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10 years ago, DOUG BRIEN was the Bears Kicker. He was 35 years old...and went 1 for his first 4 over 3 games. They cut the 35 year old Kicker for the 24 year old undrafted no name from Penn St named Robbie Gould and 2 other kickers they brought in the same week.

10 years and and 10 games later. Here we are.

I dont want him cut to get better this season, I want him cut NOW to find the next kicker.

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

You seem to think that you can just pull anyone off the scrap heap that will approach the accomplishments that Gould has done. Gould was a one-in-a-thousand kind of guy that the Bears got lucky with.

Again, he is aging, highly paid, and with seemingly diminishing skills. You want to get rid of him for those reasons, fine - I agree, but to do it now because he is on a bad roll with three games to go to "send a message" or "find the next kicker" is ridiculous at best. I mean, if the Bears had someone in mind who they thought was better, or even potentially better, don't you think that individual would have been identified and signed already?

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That's the point. They should have had kickers in camp last week to tryout and create competition and evaluate them for next year.

And not wait for the current collegiate crop?

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Why not have a punter double as placekicker and use the roster spot on someone more valuable?

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I think there's just the UCLA guy who looks NFL ready:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/10/ucla-ki ... goal-video

Might be some underclassmen, but for those likely to enter the 2016 draft, the list of kickers you'd roster as your kicker over Gould begins and ends with this guy.

which if you're willing to take a kicker in the early rounds (say, before round 5 or 6?), you can likely get him. But then what position player(s) are you losing out on for a leg.

you mean like a WR who doubles as the team's weed-dealer? Or a smoking buddy for Cutler?

Hey, I'm just trying to think like a business here.

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Bears should just hire scorehead and put him on the roster as an undercover consultant, to ferret out the shirkers on the team.

"Hello, team, meet your new holder on kick offs, Scorehead (i know, we don't need a holder on kick-offs 99% of the time, but just in case). "

THE GREAT GOULD....Can never find another. Puuuhhhhllllleeeaasse.

if you think he was a 1-1000, you're crazy. He was consistant and was the FG kicker during an era that his team lacked offensive fire power and thus kicked a ton of FG's.

He was good and accurate , didnt have a great leg and showed that in numerous situations.

His leg got better over time, just like the next kicker they find will do.

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

You do know you can do both...?

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Gould wants Hackenberg.

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You know me like that.

I can't believe some of you can be so mean as to want to put a guy with any number of imaginary and real childers out of work.

I won't be surprised to find out that he has some sort of injury right now.

I agree with bigfan that Gould should have been traded by now. Better a year early than a year late. But I don't know if there was really that much of a market for him, however, given what he is getting paid and what his future cap hit will be. Would Pace have gotten more than a 5th rounder? I think they would have gotten a low 6th that maybe could have been conditional to be a 5th if he was outstanding and the team made the conference championship.

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An extra 5th or 6th rounder in 2016 = UCLA kicker. But then you'd have a guy kicking for the Bears who is not Robbie Gould, so you might skip drafting a kicker in 2016.

Gould is signed through 2017 with $8.2 million in total cap hit remaining on the deal, and is currently projected to be the NFL’s highest-paid kicker in 2016.

Yikes.

Keep him through the season so he can continue to help improve the draft position.

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NFL contracts aren't guaranteed. Cut him and re-sign him at a lower price.

This was why I wanted him traded. I thought he was just top 3, but still at peak cost.

To have that kind of money due a K is a joke, They must have backloaded the deal. Great!

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Cut him and it's an 8.2 million dollar cap hit. Don't really see that happening.