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Anybody watching?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:24 pm 
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It's not 7:00 yet.

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leashyourkids wrote:
It's not 7:00 yet.
It's my Missouri speak. Translation: Is anyone going to watch?





(Hunter wudda known that)


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St. Louis Bull Man wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
It's not 7:00 yet.
It's my Missouri speak. Translation: Is anyone going to watch?


Thank you.

No. We're not.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:49 pm 
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What channel?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:51 pm 
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76ers
PG Tony Wroten
SG Isaiah Canaan
SF Robert Covington
PF Jerami Grant
C Jahlil Okafor

BULLS
PG Derrick Rose
SG Jimmy Butler
SF Tony Snell
PF Taj Gibson
C Pau GasolInjuries

Broke-dicks
C. Felicio INACTIVE...I still don't know who the fuck he is!
Mike Dunleavy OUT


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IkeSouth wrote:
What channel?
Dunno...I have to stream the damn thing.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:53 pm 
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Thanks for a real game thread btw.

On chi sports net. I wont get it in any bar up here. And power is out at home

But i know what will happen. Bulls will come out strong and then let 70sphincters back into it slowly and then edge out the win in the 4th qtr because the bulls suck

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IkeSouth wrote:
Thanks for a real game thread btw.

On chi sports net. I wont get it in any bar up here. And power is out at home

But i know what will happen. Bulls will come out strong and then let 70sphincters back into it slowly and then edge out the win in the 4th qtr because the bulls suck
Not 'zactly....neither team has made a field goal after 4 minutes!


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BTW: http://ifirstrowus.eu/watch/395692/1/wa ... 76ers.html

They don't try to make you download anything here.


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The best way is to use kodi and install sportsdevil

Although it hasnt been working as well as it used to

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Thanks Ike............is the Grant kid playing here the son of Horace?


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Mc Buckets on a pace for 40! :D


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What the fuck's up with that redneck entertainment at halftime!?? :shock:


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We got this...I'm out.


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Didnt get to see it. Oh well

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In lieu of discussing whatever actually happened in this game, what do people think about the NBA stepping in (no matter how much they may deny it, saying the owner called the league) to end The Process and force the 76ers to operate like something approaching a normal sports franchise? Does the league have this right to steer a team's operations, especially counter-intuitive ones in a very large market? Are you just glad the Cubs turned their ship around before MLB got the idea to stage a coup and put some crusty baseball lifer in charge "under ownership's recommendation"?

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Each one of the North American sports leagues is set up for all of the teams to try to win every year. Even the NBA with its current format of 3 or 4 annual contenders. The threat of humiliation over a half decade in last place seems to have withered, so now teams often get free license from fans to lose on purpose until the stars align and they wind up with a star player.

I don't see a real advantage to prolonged tanking in the NFL. Either a good draft class will alter the outlook of a franchise immediately, or the cycle of dread perpetuates into infinity like and teams turn into doormats like the Browns and Jaguars. The Bears have gone from the tear-it-all down philosophy to a few pieces away from contending for the division in 2016-17 on the backs of a stellar draft class.

I do see the appeal in baseball and basketball (I have absolutely no understanding of hockey other than put the ballpuck in the net), but then again I've never actually seen a team tank intentionally then win a title. The Royals lost against everyone other than the White Sox for 20 years, and didn't let their free agents walk because they wanted to be bad but because they just couldn't afford them. If it was a matter of intent Alex Gordon would've been resigned after last year's playoff run.

Meanwhile the franchises everyone wants to emulate, the Patriots, Spurs and Cardinals never tank. They try to put a winner out every year, and even with their substandard draft position find better players than almost anyone else in their respective league. So I don't see the point in tanking. If the end goal to be an annual force (and I believe that's every organizations eventual end goal) the way to do it is by never accepting losing.


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America wrote:
I do see the appeal in baseball and basketball (I have absolutely no understanding of hockey other than put the ballpuck in the net)


I'd say hockey's closest relative is baseball in the sense that you have to manage a large gameday roster, decreasing cost controls, guaranteed contracts, and a developmental system (though instead of the six or seven levels to a baseball organization, it's more like two-and-a-half plus juniors/college/Europe as ad-hoc affiliates), but with the added wrinkle of a hard salary cap. If you make a mistake, it's almost prohibitively hard to get out of it.

It used to just be "buy everyone" in the glory days of the Rangers/Stars/Avs/Wings, and "have Wayne Gretzky" before that, but since the institution of the hard-cap system, the way to build a champion would seem to be by drafting high, drafting well, and finding any loophole in the cap system that you can. For the Hawks, this has meant frontloading Marian Hossa's contract, using Kane's long-term injury to field a playoff roster that went waaaay over the cap, and the weird 2013 lockout season where no one really knew how to calculate the cap that year, said "fuck it you guys can go over a little," and the Hawks went over a lot. The L.A. Kings didn't exploit a loophole so much as they happened to have general managers tell them "yeah, we'd love to give you the top two centers from the 14-playoff-game-winning 2010 Flyers in exchange for some random crap."

But most of all, you have to have high-achieving young players, and the way to do that is to get as many draft picks as you can, the higher, the better. Top picks are great, having depth picks is a must as well. Necessarily, this means sinking to the bottom to rise to the top, but the NHL keeps its salary floor so high (too high) that it's hard to truly gut a roster. Throw in the game's inherent randomness (another similarity with baseball) and it's hard to be flat-out 76ers-level awful. The Edmonton Oilers have been a dumpster fire for years now, but it's not part of some high-minded "process." They've been trying really hard to win, they just don't.

But Oilers-style failure is why the NHL can't have The Process. Hockey just isn't popular enough for teams to financially withstand that kind of utter bottoming out. The Oilers got away with it for years because Northern Alberta has (now had) been filthy rich with oilsands money, the Oilers are a civic treasure because of Gretzky, and there's shit else to do in Edmonton. When you do a full-scale rebuild in South Florida with your over-reliance on visiting fans and your nonexistent TV revenue, you find yourself begging Broward County for a bailout, which they just got last week. Same deal with Columbus, Raleigh, Phoenix, Nashville. The Sixers have been the beneficiary of the NBA's giant TV contract and now I guess an even bigger TV contract in a year or two. They can crater their local revenues and not miss a beat. For this to happen in Salt Lake City or Sacramento would be annoying, but from Philadelphia, it feels like a bunch of Wall Street wizards figuring out a new way to walk all over generally accepted practices and fuck everyone over. Actually, that is what it is.

I guess what I'm getting at is that I'm glad the NBA stepped in. The whole thing just feels like some sort of long con where every time they pick in the top 5 and the guy turns out not to be a generational talent, they start the cycle all over again, like they'll just keep drafting high forever with nothing to show for it. It's like the Marlins from 2004-2011, but with the added cynicism that comes from exploiting the whole "NBA regular season is pointless" trope. Maybe there should be a way to make the NBA season not pointless so that teams owned by hedgies can't game the system at the expense of the league's integrity. How much you wanna bet they sell after the new TV contract kicks in?

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Curious Hair wrote:
In lieu of discussing whatever actually happened in this game, what do people think about the NBA stepping in (no matter how much they may deny it, saying the owner called the league) to end The Process and force the 76ers to operate like something approaching a normal sports franchise? Does the league have this right to steer a team's operations, especially counter-intuitive ones in a very large market? Are you just glad the Cubs turned their ship around before MLB got the idea to stage a coup and put some crusty baseball lifer in charge "under ownership's recommendation"?


the sixers organization needed to be intervened with. there is no plan except to keep trying for a #1 draft pick. but you still have to pick the right guy. and the sixers keep seeming to want 6'11" guys with broken feet. keep drafting greg oden until one of them works out. they can't even really be considered a professional team.

i don't know if MLB would've done anything. there were teams that were as abysmal as the cubs. there is nothing as close to as bad as the sixers right now.


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I believe the Marlins got to a point where the revenue sharing coming in and the payroll coming out made MLB step in and say something. I want to say the 09-10 offseason.

I was mostly joking about the Cubs.

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Mike D'Antoni is the 76ers' new vice-president of looming over Brett Brown's shoulder until he gets fired -- excuse me, I mean "associate head coach." With this move, I'm starting to question whether the NBA took over the Sixers to make them better or took over the Sixers to make them even worse.

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