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 Post subject: DeMarcus Cousins
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The Boston Celtics, Miami Heat and Chicago Bulls have each been in contact with the Sacramento Kings about a potential trade for star center DeMarcus Cousins.


I know he is super talented.

But do you really want the headache and drama that he brings?

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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Yes. Fuck yes. Trade the entire team except for Butler for him.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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Yes. Fuck yes. Trade the entire team except for Butler for him.


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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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I'd even part with Butler for him.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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Yes. Fuck yes. Trade the entire team except for Butler for him.


When you're right...but I'd consider trading Butler as well.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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I agree that Cousins could get us a 2 seed while playing 1 v 5, but I got my expectations set higher. He needs at least one teammate if we are gonna beat Golden State.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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Hoiberg doesn't strike me as a guy who can manage a locker room that houses a guy like Cousins.

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Hoiberg doesn't strike me as a guy who can manage a locker room that houses a guy like Cousins.


Hoiberg hasn't struck me as a good NBA coach yet. I'm fairly certain he'd wilt around Boogie.

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Hoiberg doesn't strike me as a guy who can manage a locker room that houses a guy like Cousins.

I think the Cousins stuff is overstated based on his first 2-3 years in the league. I don't see him as a locker room cancer type of guy. Sacramento itself is a fucking cancer. Let's save him before it's too late.

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Hoiberg doesn't strike me as a guy who can manage a locker room that houses a guy like Cousins.


Hoiberg hasn't struck me as a good NBA coach yet.


That too

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Sacramento itself is a fucking cancer. Let's save him before it's too late.


Didn't that goofy owner try talking up playing 4 on 5 defense at one point...because that's how he coached his daughter's grammar school team?!?

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The Boston Celtics, Miami Heat and Chicago Bulls have each been in contact with the Sacramento Kings about a potential trade for star center DeMarcus Cousins.


I know he is super talented.

But do you really want the headache and drama that he brings?






Absolutely, he's a guy you build around.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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Sacramento itself is a fucking cancer. Let's save him before it's too late.


Didn't that goofy owner try talking up playing 4 on 5 defense at one point...because that's how he coached his daughter's grammar school team?!?

:lol: :lol: I think so. I think that was last year.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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I'm a Cousins guy and thought he was the best player in the draft the yr he entered the league. I don't know what I would mortgage to get him though. His difficult to ascertain his value. He may be a guy that puts up numbers on losing teams. I watch a lot of Sacramento basketball. I know its a miserable life i lead, but he is part of their problem also. Its not just locker room stuff but he does on the court stuff that can cost you games. I'd roll with trading for him if the price is right.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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No thank you.

Low FG%, chucks threes even though he can't hit them, can't get along with other scorers.

He isn't a winner. He is a taller Carmelo.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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This team is going nowhere as currently constructed, and a gamble on Cousins could keep them relevant for many seasons to come. I'd be willing to take that risk. Otherwise this team takes a major step back after this season (some would say the step back has already begun).

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I'm a Cousins guy and thought he was the best player in the draft the yr he entered the league. I don't know what I would mortgage to get him though. His difficult to ascertain his value. He may be a guy that puts up numbers on losing teams. I watch a lot of Sacramento basketball. I know its a miserable life i lead, but he is part of their problem also. Its not just locker room stuff but he does on the court stuff that can cost you games. I'd roll with trading for him if the price is right.


Butler has to be part of any deal if you're Sacramento. If say okay we won't take Butler, then I don't see how the next request is anything less than something like Mirotic, McDerwhatever, Snell, and Portis.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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No thank you.

Low FG%, chucks threes even though he can't hit them, can't get along with other scorers.

He isn't a winner. He is a taller Carmelo.



Could be even worse. He could be a taller Etwaun Moore. Speaking of which, it seems as though the Etwaun Moore era has mercifully come to an end. I guess he will have to wait for someone to get injured in order to crack the 10 man rotation again.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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I'm a Cousins guy and thought he was the best player in the draft the yr he entered the league. I don't know what I would mortgage to get him though. His difficult to ascertain his value. He may be a guy that puts up numbers on losing teams. I watch a lot of Sacramento basketball. I know its a miserable life i lead, but he is part of their problem also. Its not just locker room stuff but he does on the court stuff that can cost you games. I'd roll with trading for him if the price is right.


Butler has to be part of any deal if you're Sacramento. If say okay we won't take Butler, then I don't see how the next request is anything less than something like Mirotic, McDerwhatever, Snell, and Portis.

Since all those guys, except possibly Portis, suck at basketball, I'd make that deal in a split second.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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The Sacramento owner is a dumb-fuck and Vlade probably isn't much better.

Rose and a poo-poo platter should get it done.

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I'm a Cousins guy and thought he was the best player in the draft the yr he entered the league. I don't know what I would mortgage to get him though. His difficult to ascertain his value. He may be a guy that puts up numbers on losing teams. I watch a lot of Sacramento basketball. I know its a miserable life i lead, but he is part of their problem also. Its not just locker room stuff but he does on the court stuff that can cost you games. I'd roll with trading for him if the price is right.


Butler has to be part of any deal if you're Sacramento. If say okay we won't take Butler, then I don't see how the next request is anything less than something like Mirotic, McDerwhatever, Snell, and Portis.


I agree. I don't know how Sacramento accepts any trade which doesn't include Butler.

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I'm a Cousins guy and thought he was the best player in the draft the yr he entered the league. I don't know what I would mortgage to get him though. His difficult to ascertain his value. He may be a guy that puts up numbers on losing teams. I watch a lot of Sacramento basketball. I know its a miserable life i lead, but he is part of their problem also. Its not just locker room stuff but he does on the court stuff that can cost you games. I'd roll with trading for him if the price is right.


Butler has to be part of any deal if you're Sacramento. If say okay we won't take Butler, then I don't see how the next request is anything less than something like Mirotic, McDerwhatever, Snell, and Portis.

Since all those guys, except possibly Portis, suck at basketball, I'd make that deal in a split second.


Do they suck? Honestly speaking? Haven't been watching lately, am a cord-cutter. It seemed like the group I mentioned could become a strong support cast for Butler and some other star, if we were to obtain one.

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veganfan21 wrote:
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I'm a Cousins guy and thought he was the best player in the draft the yr he entered the league. I don't know what I would mortgage to get him though. His difficult to ascertain his value. He may be a guy that puts up numbers on losing teams. I watch a lot of Sacramento basketball. I know its a miserable life i lead, but he is part of their problem also. Its not just locker room stuff but he does on the court stuff that can cost you games. I'd roll with trading for him if the price is right.


Butler has to be part of any deal if you're Sacramento. If say okay we won't take Butler, then I don't see how the next request is anything less than something like Mirotic, McDerwhatever, Snell, and Portis.

Since all those guys, except possibly Portis, suck at basketball, I'd make that deal in a split second.


Do they suck? Honestly speaking? Haven't been watching lately, am a cord-cutter. It seemed like the group I mentioned could become a strong support cast for Butler and some other star, if we were to obtain one.

Mirotic has a chance to be alright. He sucks right now, and he was less than impressive last year if you take the whole year into account.

Snell sucks.

McDermott is so atrocious on defense he would need to score 20+ ppg to become a valuable player. He is really bad.

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No thank you.

Low FG%, chucks threes even though he can't hit them, can't get along with other scorers.

He isn't a winner. He is a taller Carmelo.


I can't tell for certain if you're posting about Cousins or Rose.

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Can't imagine the Kings would want Butler's contract. I would trade everyone except Butler for him.

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No thank you.

Low FG%, chucks threes even though he can't hit them, can't get along with other scorers.

He isn't a winner. He is a taller Carmelo.


I can't tell for certain if you're posting about Cousins or Rose.

Until that last sentence, there is no difference.

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This is all a pipe dream, The Bulls don't have any valuable players to make this deal a remote possibility.

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This is all a pipe dream, The Bulls don't have any valuable players to make this deal a remote possibility.


Miami and Boston have more valuable players?


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