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 Post subject: Jay Cutler
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:21 pm 
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Here's something I thought I'd never see. Cutler could end up with a better passer rating than Aaron Rodgers. Cutler is currently at 92.8. Rodgers is at 93.7.

And I don't want to hear about the Packers injuries cuz the Bears have had a lot on offense as well.

Not saying Cutler is better than Rodgers. Of course he isn't. But Cutler has really been impressive this year with what he has had to work with.

And guess what? Cutler will be the Bears QB for at least 3 more years. He's got 5 years left on his deal. The money is now reasonable for what QBs are getting.


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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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But Cutler has really been impressive this year with what he has had to work with.
No he hasn't. Ultra conservative offense has kept the turnovers down while making the Bears do nothing more than stay in games and have a few breaks go their way. They won't ever be a winning team with him playing like this. He's had better years as a Bears player. The Gase offense is fools gold meant to make them look more competent than they are.
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And guess what? Cutler will be the Bears QB for at least 3 more years. He's got 5 years left on his deal. The money is now reasonable for what QBs are getting.
He falls somewhere between 15-20 in QB statistics this year. What he is paid is not at all reasonable. Cut his salary in half and he is paid based on his production and you can maybe win with that.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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I heard somebody say that his cap hit will be like 15th highest of QBs in the NFL next year. So, yes, it is now reasonable.

And he has had a good year. Not great. But very good considering he's had no WRs to throw to for the most part. White missed the entire year. Jeffery missed half the year and when he was playing he wasn't healthy.


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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Here's an offensive stat they don't track. Or at least I don't know of it.

How many times this year did Cutler avoid a sack by moving, climbing and sliding in the pocket? He probably led the league in this. Or maybe tied with Rodgers cuz he's good at it as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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BRIck, if Cutler doesn't throw 2 INTs on Sunday, he'll be the only starting QB that hasn't thrown multi-picks this year. #Progress.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Cutler will be better next year. Healthy Kevin White, hopefully Alshon is healthy and I'd love for them to draft a burner WR like the 3 little guys in AZ.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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He sucks and will always be a bum. Give it up already.


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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Beardown wrote:
Here's an offensive stat they don't track. Or at least I don't know of it.

How many times this year did Cutler avoid a sack by moving, climbing and sliding in the pocket? He probably led the league in this. Or maybe tied with Rodgers cuz he's good at it as well.




Rodgers is twice the QB that Cutty is, there isn't a single positive thing Jay can do better than Rodgers.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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BRIck, if Cutler doesn't throw 2 INTs on Sunday, he'll be the only starting QB that hasn't thrown multi-picks this year. #Progress.
It isn't really progress though. He's just a game manager now, which is fine when you get paid like one.
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Cutler will be better next year. Healthy Kevin White, hopefully Alshon is healthy and I'd love for them to draft a burner WR like the 3 little guys in AZ.
This sounds familiar.

Once we get some talent around him then it will all be good.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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312player wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Here's an offensive stat they don't track. Or at least I don't know of it.

How many times this year did Cutler avoid a sack by moving, climbing and sliding in the pocket? He probably led the league in this. Or maybe tied with Rodgers cuz he's good at it as well.




Rodgers is twice the QB that Cutty is, there isn't a single positive thing Jay can do better than Rodgers.


Thank you for stating the obvious. I never said he could. That doesn't mean Cutler sucks because he's not Aaron Rodgers.


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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
spmack wrote:
BRIck, if Cutler doesn't throw 2 INTs on Sunday, he'll be the only starting QB that hasn't thrown multi-picks this year. #Progress.
It isn't really progress though. He's just a game manager now, which is fine when you get paid like one.
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Cutler will be better next year. Healthy Kevin White, hopefully Alshon is healthy and I'd love for them to draft a burner WR like the 3 little guys in AZ.
This sounds familiar.

Once we get some talent around him then it will all be good.


But he's a game manager this year cuz he had to be. He's had no WRs for most of the year.


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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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But he's a game manager this year cuz he had to be. He's had no WRs for most of the year.
So then this year isn't really predictive at all?

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Beardown wrote:
But he's a game manager this year cuz he had to be. He's had no WRs for most of the year.
So then this year isn't really predictive at all?


Very predictive. He's been good with a shitty line and no receivers.


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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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He's a game manager because he sucks at the the down field pass, can't read a defense and has zero pocket awareness.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Very predictive. He's been good with a shitty line and no receivers.
Ok, I've done this before when people start projecting greatness.

What statistics do you see for him in 2016? Will he be a top 5 qb? Will he be a top 10 qb?

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Beardown wrote:
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Beardown wrote:
But he's a game manager this year cuz he had to be. He's had no WRs for most of the year.
So then this year isn't really predictive at all?


Very predictive. He's been good with a shitty line and no receivers.




I'm not sure if you watch other NFL teams, But Brady and Rodgers have worse lines.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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312player wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Beardown wrote:
But he's a game manager this year cuz he had to be. He's had no WRs for most of the year.
So then this year isn't really predictive at all?


Very predictive. He's been good with a shitty line and no receivers.




I'm not sure if you watch other NFL teams, But Brady and Rodgers have worse lines.

And the Dallas OL is one of the best.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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312player wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Beardown wrote:
But he's a game manager this year cuz he had to be. He's had no WRs for most of the year.
So then this year isn't really predictive at all?


Very predictive. He's been good with a shitty line and no receivers.




I'm not sure if you watch other NFL teams, But Brady and Rodgers have worse lines.


Rodgers does have a worse line. I agree. Patriots line might be equal to ours. It's just that Brady gets sacked more because he isn't as athletic as Cutler to avoid sacks. Cutler makes the line look better than it is. And it's not even good with him doing that.


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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Rodgers arguably having the worst season of his career might have a worse rating than Cutler his career best.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Very predictive. He's been good with a shitty line and no receivers.
Ok, I've done this before when people start projecting greatness.

What statistics do you see for him in 2016? Will he be a top 5 qb? Will he be a top 10 qb?


Top 10.


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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Rodgers arguably having the worst season of his career might have a worse rating than Cutler his career best.

#ExtendCutler


Right. That's why I said I thought I'd never see it.

They don't have to extend cutler, by the way. He signed a 7 year deal. He's under contract for 5 more years. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Rick we don't agree on much but we are lockstep on this guy . Jay has been so good this year they may only win 6 games . If all his guys were healthy it'd be same old Jay throwing picks. He's had to check everything down this year which is why his pick numbers are so low. He's never been worth the money they're paying him for the production he gives .

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Rodgers arguably having the worst season of his career might have a worse rating than Cutler his career best.

#ExtendCutler

:lol:

All I've heard from Bear fans all year was how shitty Rodgers and GB has been. Rodgers has been so shitty, Cutler is almost as good this year! And somehow... thats a positive for Cutler and the Bears! Gotta love Bear fans.

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Rick we don't agree on much but we are lockstep on this guy . Jay has been so good this year they may only win 6 games . If all his guys were healthy it'd be same old Jay throwing picks. He's had to check everything down this year which is why his pick numbers are so low. He's never been worth the money they're paying him for the production he gives .
You're my guy badrogue.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Rodgers arguably having the worst season of his career might have a worse rating than Cutler his career best.

#ExtendCutler

:lol:

All I've heard from Bear fans all year was how shitty Rodgers and GB has been. Rodgers has been so shitty, Cutler is almost as good this year! And somehow... thats a positive for Cutler and the Bears! Gotta love Bear fans.


You've heard it from the dumb Bears fans. Don't do the broad brush thing.

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Rodgers arguably having the worst season of his career might have a worse rating than Cutler his career best.

#ExtendCutler

:lol:

All I've heard from Bear fans all year was how shitty Rodgers and GB has been. Rodgers has been so shitty, Cutler is almost as good this year! And somehow... thats a positive for Cutler and the Bears! Gotta love Bear fans.


You've heard it from the dumb Bears fans. Don't do the broad brush thing.

Just yesterday you said there's no dumber fan base than Bears fans. WYC?

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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I never said Rodgers was shitty if you're talking about me. He still has 30 TDs to 8 or 9 picks. IMAGINARY MESSAGE BOARD.


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FavreFan wrote:
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FavreFan wrote:
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Rodgers arguably having the worst season of his career might have a worse rating than Cutler his career best.

#ExtendCutler

:lol:

All I've heard from Bear fans all year was how shitty Rodgers and GB has been. Rodgers has been so shitty, Cutler is almost as good this year! And somehow... thats a positive for Cutler and the Bears! Gotta love Bear fans.


You've heard it from the dumb Bears fans. Don't do the broad brush thing.

Just yesterday you said there's no dumber fan base than Bears fans. WYC?


Unless I said "all Bears fans are dumb fans," that's not a WYC. In case you forgot, I'm a Bears fan, so I'm probably not going to be describing myself as one of the "dumbest fans", regardless of whether it's true.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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I never said all Bears fans either, if you want to argue semantics for no reason. Our statements were basically saying the same thing. Relax and go have a bourbon, man.

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