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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:16 pm 
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Chili needs beans. Chili does not need meat.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:17 pm 
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Chili needs beans. Chili does not need meat.
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And yet Chus, FFan & Baby McNown were the ones banned. :lol:

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Irish wrote:
Chili needs beans. Chili does not need meat.
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Well...technically you are correct...but...no, just no...


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:37 pm 
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Been making chili without meat for years - it's all about using the right beans and the right spices. Especially the spices.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:41 pm 
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Been making chili without meat for years - it's all about using the right beans and the right spices. Especially the spices.

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I'll give you this, your 5-7 Bean Salad :wink: "chili" is less offensive to me than turkey "chili".
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what's the ruling on using a non-ground meat, i.e. a chuck roast, brisket, steak, etc.


Best chili I ever had but too much work. Reprinted without permission.

INGREDIENTS

Table salt
1/2 pound dried pinto beans (about 1 cup), rinsed and picked over
6 dried ancho chiles (about 1 3/4 ounces), stems and seeds removed, and flesh torn into 1-inch pieces (see note)
2-4 dried árbol chiles, stems removed, pods split, and seeds removed (see note)
3 tablespoons cornmeal
2 teaspoons dried oregano
2 teaspoons ground cumin
2 teaspoons cocoa powder
2 1/2 cups low-sodium chicken broth
2 medium onions, cut into 3/4-inch pieces (about 2 cups)
3 small jalapeño chiles, stems and seeds removed and discarded, and flesh cut into 1/2-inch pieces
3 tablespoons vegetable oil
4 medium garlic cloves, minced or pressed through garlic press (about 4 teaspoons)
1 (14.5-ounce) can diced tomatoes
2 teaspoons light molasses
3 1/2 pounds blade steak, 3/4 inch thick, trimmed of gristle and fat and cut into 3/4-inch pieces (see note)
1 (12-ounce) bottle mild-flavored lager, such as Budweiser
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1. Combine 3 tablespoons salt, 4 quarts water, and beans in large Dutch oven and bring to boil over high heat. Remove pot from heat, cover, and let stand 1 hour. Drain and rinse well.

2. Adjust oven rack to lower-middle position and heat oven to 300 degrees. Place ancho chiles in 12-inch skillet set over medium-high heat; toast, stirring frequently, until flesh is fragrant, 4 to 6 minutes, reducing heat if chiles begin to smoke. Transfer to bowl of food processor and cool. Do not wash out skillet.

3. Add árbol chiles, cornmeal, oregano, cumin, cocoa, and ½ teaspoon salt to food processor with toasted ancho chiles; process until finely ground, about 2 minutes. With processor running, very slowly add ½ cup broth until smooth paste forms, about 45 seconds, scraping down sides of bowl as necessary. Transfer paste to small bowl. Place onions in now-empty processor bowl and pulse until roughly chopped, about four 1-second pulses. Add jalapeños and pulse until consistency of chunky salsa, about four 1-second pulses, scraping down bowl as necessary.

4. Heat 1 tablespoon oil in large Dutch oven over medium-high heat. Add onion mixture and cook, stirring occasionally, until moisture has evaporated and vegetables are softened, 7 to 9 minutes. Add garlic and cook until fragrant, about 1 minute. Add chili paste, tomatoes, and molasses; stir until chili paste is thoroughly combined. Add remaining 2 cups broth and drained beans; bring to boil, then reduce heat to simmer.

5. Meanwhile, heat 1 tablespoon oil in 12-inch skillet over medium-high heat until shimmering. Pat beef dry with paper towels and sprinkle with 1 teaspoon salt. Add half of beef and cook until browned on all sides, about 10 minutes. Transfer meat to Dutch oven. Add ½ bottle lager to skillet, scraping bottom of pan to loosen any browned bits, and bring to simmer. Transfer lager to Dutch oven. Repeat with remaining tablespoon oil, steak, and lager. Once last addition of lager has been added to Dutch oven, stir to combine and return mixture to simmer.

6. Cover pot and transfer to oven. Cook until meat and beans are fully tender, 1½ to 2 hours. Let chili stand, uncovered, 10 minutes. Stir well and season to taste with salt before serving.

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And not a bean in sight! I knew I could count on you DannyB!

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Regular Reader wrote:
Irish wrote:
Been making chili without meat for years - it's all about using the right beans and the right spices. Especially the spices.

:alien:


I'll give you this, your 5-7 Bean Salad :wink: "chili" is less offensive to me than turkey "chili".
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I can get you a bean salad recipe if you'd like, but my various chili recipes have at most four beans, preferably from Rancho Gordo

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A "soup-like" chili sounds terrible.

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And not a bean in sight! I knew I could count on you DannyB!


Pinto beans are a bean. It's the first thing listed.


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A "soup-like" chili sounds terrible.


It is. My batch on Monday was soupy. I ended up scooping out six ladles worth.

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And not a bean in sight! I knew I could count on you DannyB!


Pinto beans are a bean. It's the first thing listed.

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I'm on team bean. I'll even put in lentils on occasion.


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I'll eat it, but beans in chili always seem to take away from it for me. Everything else seems to mix together, but the beans are just kind of there.

Texas chili bans beans.

Less beans, more meat.



^^^^ This.

I too used to use the Carroll Shelby pre-mix & then just add really liberally(peppers/onion/chorizo as well). Given that no one else in my house eats chili w/o beans, I now rarely make what was a damned fine pot of red.

When my boys ask, I often angrily say no & blame their mother & her chili bean influence.

Beans in chili... :evil:



It says you are a pussy for beans right on the Shelby package. :lol:

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Regular Reader wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'll eat it, but beans in chili always seem to take away from it for me. Everything else seems to mix together, but the beans are just kind of there.

Texas chili bans beans.

Less beans, more meat.



^^^^ This.

I too used to use the Carroll Shelby pre-mix & then just add really liberally(peppers/onion/chorizo as well). Given that no one else in my house eats chili w/o beans, I now rarely make what was a damned fine pot of red.

When my boys ask, I often angrily say no & blame their mother & her chili bean influence.

Beans in chili... :evil:



Wait a second. You're recommending using a pre-mix? Bah!

Make your own spice mix man! Not even the excessively youthful imu uses a pre-mix!

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3 pounds stew meat (beef, pork, and/or lamb)
2 teaspoons peanut oil
1 1/2 teaspoons kosher salt
1 (12-ounce) bottle of beer, preferably a medium ale
1 (16-ounce) container salsa
30 tortilla chips
2 chipotle peppers canned in adobo sauce, chopped
1 tablespoon adobo sauce (from the chipotle peppers in adobo)
1 tablespoon tomato paste
1 tablespoon chili powder
1 teaspoon ground cumin

Place the meat in a large mixing bowl and toss with the peanut oil and salt. Set aside.

Heat a 6-quart heavy-bottomed pressure cooker over high heat until hot. Add the meat in 3 or 4 batches and brown on all sides, approximately 2 minutes per batch. Once each batch is browned, place the meat in a clean large bowl.

Once all of the meat is browned, add the beer to the cooker to deglaze the pot.

Scrape the browned bits from the bottom of the pot. Add the meat back to the pressure cooker along with the salsa, tortilla chips, chipotle peppers, adobo sauce, tomato paste, chili powder, and ground cumin and stir to combine. Lock the lid in place according to the manufacturer's instructions. When the steam begins to hiss out of the cooker, reduce the heat to low, just enough to maintain a very weak whistle. Cook for 25 minutes. Remove from the heat and carefully release the steam. Serve immediately.

Tip of the hat to Alton Brown for this one -- I made it once and it was quite good, with the benefit of being done in less than an hour.

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I'll be making some tomorrow. Ground beef & pork. The standard veggies and beans, but I like to employ black and white beans along with kidney beans.

Chocolate is a great addition as well. Not a lot, just a couple of Hershey squares or kisses.

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Chocolate is a great addition as well. Not a lot, just a couple of Hershey squares or kisses.

Way to ruin my thread.

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Your thread was ruined with your silly title.

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Your thread was ruined with your silly title.

And least I'm not throwing desserts into a crockpot and trying to pass it off as chili.

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2 bite size pieces of chocolate does not a dessert make. And if Chipotle or Five Guys used chocolate in their cooking, you would be calling it the best idea ever.

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My wife has a friend who is a great baker and chef. She is single but cooks massive amounts of food, so she always brings some by. Our house is on the way home from her work so she'll stop by and just drop stuff off unannounced. She is an earner as well, so she always uses the best ingredients. She brought by some steak chili Friday night. Great.

No threesomes have been offered.

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Give her my number.

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Give her my number.


She even works in the northern suburbs.

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My wife has a friend who is a great baker and chef. She is single but cooks massive amounts of food, so she always brings some by. Our house is on the way home from her work so she'll stop by and just drop stuff off unannounced. She is an earner as well, so she always uses the best ingredients. She brought by some steak chili Friday night. Great.

No threesomes have been offered.

Is she hot?

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Give her my number.


She even works in the northern suburbs.

I feel like there isn't an agreed upon cut-off for the 'nothern suburbs.'

I believe Lake Forest and Libertyville should be considered the most northern suburbs. Then Gurnee exists in the DMZ between Chicago and Milwaukee.

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good dolphin wrote:
My wife has a friend who is a great baker and chef. She is single but cooks massive amounts of food, so she always brings some by. Our house is on the way home from her work so she'll stop by and just drop stuff off unannounced. She is an earner as well, so she always uses the best ingredients. She brought by some steak chili Friday night. Great.

No threesomes have been offered.

Is she hot?


She isn't unattractive. She is really nice but she has a type A personality.

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Back off, Hormel.

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Give her my number.


She even works in the northern suburbs.

I feel like there isn't an agreed upon cut-off for the 'nothern suburbs.'

I believe Lake Forest and Libertyville should be considered the most northern suburbs. Then Gurnee exists in the DMZ between Chicago and Milwaukee.


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I would say Gurnee is the last stop before civilization ends. After Gurnee is a series of oddities like pyramids, renaissance faires and junked military vehicles

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