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 Post subject: Re: Dougie McSuckets
PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:26 pm 
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Ah the numbers the numbers. It's not about stats for the millionth time. They could have exactly the same numbers and he still wouldn't be Tyrus Thomas.
Also your original comparison was about their similarities as players. It's obvious that they are completely different players so you're resorting to your bread and butter; facts.

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 Post subject: Re: Dougie McSuckets
PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:42 pm 
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Contrary to what is purported in the thread title McDermott hasn't been a bust. I think this may be a case where those that didn't believe he'd be the 2nd coming of Larry Bird are patting themselves on the back. Some had him overrated and that was a mistake. He is,not flopping and he has shown that he can play in the NBA. Also it's presumptuous to suggest that he's right about McDermott while McDermott is still an active member in the NBA.


For an 11th pick who cost the 16 and 19 picks to draft, he's going to have to show more than having "shown that he can play in the NBA."


Can you definitively provide three guys drafted after him that will be better pros? Particularly after the 16th pick?

LaVine, Nurkic, and Harris. Definitively.


Rodney Hood's had a really great stretch recently. Clint Capela looks like a backup Center who'll stick for a while.

Worst part is McDermott is older than all these guys.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:38 pm 
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This team doesn't have enough guys from Iowa on it.

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 Post subject: Re: Dougie McSuckets
PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:08 am 
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Disagree. To say his percentage has been declining isn't really saying much. He was shooting 54% from three earlier in the year. Its bound to decline. He isn't going to be a 40% shooter ever. He shoots too well and he takes good shots. IMU you have to be a little more consistent.

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I know not everyone agrees on basketball analytics, but here's something interesting.

McDermott is second in the league for true shooting percentage and third in the league in effective field goal percentage.



He still sucks though. How dare these statistics contradict the narrative? How dare he start in front of the likes of Etwaun Moore? How dare he prove the great Tom Thibodeau wrong? Pure blasphemy I'll say.

It seems like sometimes ltg is okay with statistics.

So... in November, McDermott shot 53.3%. In December, 45.8%. In January, 38.7%. This is a trend.

43.1% for the season. Great chance for him to be a 40% shooter for two consecutive years, after it was said he would 'never' be a 40% shooter.

His traditional basketball stats look bad. The advanced metrics? Negatives everywhere.

The eye test confirms it. The statistics confirm it.

McDermott is bad. Likely not in the league in five years. Best case scenario? 11th man.



It took the very excited Bryan Harlan to mention the fact that McDermott is in the top ten in 3 point shooting. Nice omission.

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 Post subject: Re: Dougie McSuckets
PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:06 am 
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3P% is covered within FG%.

Maybe if he stopped shooting anything but a wide open three and never considered dribbling or creating a shot he'd shoot much better.

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3P% is covered within FG%.

Maybe if he stopped shooting anything but a wide open three and never considered dribbling or creating a shot he'd shoot much better.


I'm pretty sure you would not have failed to mention the 3 point percentage of Etwaun Moore if it could advance your argument.

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 Post subject: Re: Dougie McSuckets
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:40 am 
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That is a fluff piece. It avoids talking actual results and numbers in favor of 'mental fortitude' and 'confidence.' Give me a break. Nick Friedell uses articles like those to build relationships with the player and the coach to get more stories down the line. Make everyone feel great. I'd call it Journalism 101 but I'm fairly sure it is common sense that doesn't need to be taught.

McDermott has put together three above average games. Yet as it happens, his FG% has been consistently declining as the season goes on. At its current pace...he will once again be a 40% shooter that offers absolutely no value in any other stat line. Teams will still rather McDermott shoot than Butler and others. He will get opportunities because defenders should rightly be more worried about other players on the floor.


Aha! Just as I suspected. Isn't this sort of unbecoming for a guy generally regarded as a "credible" poster? No problem citing Friedell when it advances the narrative. Way to go.

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 Post subject: Re: Dougie McSuckets
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I guess Friedell found some self respect. Good for him.

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Disagree. To say his percentage has been declining isn't really saying much. He was shooting 54% from three earlier in the year. Its bound to decline. He isn't going to be a 40% shooter ever. He shoots too well and he takes good shots. IMU you have to be a little more consistent.

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Matches Malone wrote:
I know not everyone agrees on basketball analytics, but here's something interesting.

McDermott is second in the league for true shooting percentage and third in the league in effective field goal percentage.



He still sucks though. How dare these statistics contradict the narrative? How dare he start in front of the likes of Etwaun Moore? How dare he prove the great Tom Thibodeau wrong? Pure blasphemy I'll say.

It seems like sometimes ltg is okay with statistics.

So... in November, McDermott shot 53.3%. In December, 45.8%. In January, 38.7%. This is a trend.

43.1% for the season. Great chance for him to be a 40% shooter for two consecutive years, after it was said he would 'never' be a 40% shooter.

His traditional basketball stats look bad. The advanced metrics? Negatives everywhere.

The eye test confirms it. The statistics confirm it.

McDermott is bad. Likely not in the league in five years. Best case scenario? 11th man.



It took the very excited Bryan Harlan to mention the fact that McDermott is in the top ten in 3 point shooting. Nice omission.

he's 64th in the league in 3 pointers made whoop de doo

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 Post subject: Re: Dougie McSuckets
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E'Twaun Moore is 46.1% from 3P for the season. 5% higher than McDermott. That is 4th best in the NBA for any player with 50 or more 3P attempts.

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E'Twaun Moore is 46.1% from 3P for the season. 5% higher than McDermott. That is 4th best in the NBA for any player with 50 or more 3P attempts.

This guy gets it.

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The front office was right about Thibs holding back young talent, it's just that the young talent in question was Moore and not Snell/McDermott.


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The front office was right about Thibs holding back young talent, it's just that the young talent in question was Moore and not Snell/McDermott.

5 years in the league and Moore is what he is ....a bench warmer

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 Post subject: Re: Dougie McSuckets
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dude is mentally weak. he has enough physical skills to be decent, but jeez. he takes some terrible shots. black hole.

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