Get this deal done. I know it would be extremely tough to work out a significant trade with the Bucks, but he would be a piece that could fit in very well going forward. Fit Rose into a trade (3 team if necessary) or move him in the offseason in a separate deal.

2016-2017
Michael Carter-Williams
Jimmy Butler
sign Al Horford or Nic Batum
draft a forward
Don't invest too much into the center position...focus on an athletic guy that can rebound.

I'm okay with that.

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It would be easy to get rid of McDermott in a package since Bucks could use a spot up shooter.

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I would love to get rid of Rose any way possible. MCW doesn't do much for me though. He's just not very good.




I think the Bucks know McDermott sucks as much as we do. This sounds like wishful thinking.

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Also, Horford is a center. I don't think he's really ever played forward in the NBA.

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That's fair, but I don't view him as a prototypical center. But...NBA in 2016 and all. Either way...I'd consider him.

There are many things the Bulls could do for next year. Some decent free agents...cap space...and lots of positions that can improve.

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So you're a Rondo fan but not a Carter-Williams fan?

Like...you see how that seems weird, right?

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Not particularly. Rondo has put up 18 points, 20 assists, and 17 rebounds in one game before. Oscar and Wilt are the only other players in history to do that. If my PG can't shoot for shit, he better be great at everything else. Rondo is/was. MCW is not.

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MCW has plenty of time. He can drive, pass, defend, rebound.... he is a smart PG and seems to care about making the great pass before he looks 'to get his.'

He can be the floor general on a great team.

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So where do the Bulls fit in to that?

I guess I get the opposite impression when I watch him play. MCW seems like a very athletic dipshit with a low basketball IQ who's not very good at passing, but even worse at shooting so he's a pass first guy. He's good at driving to the hole and finishing, not so good at every other facet of offense. It's entirely possible I've just watched a few bad games of his, but I'm not at all impressed with his career so far.

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He and Butler would be a great start. The first of many moves.

Since the Bulls are paying Thibs...they might as well ask him to come back and coach again for at least the remainder of this season. Hoibitch can learn from one of the best.

Edit: watch a few more games and let me know...i may be wrong...but i dont think so. I think his defense and passing rank highly among current pg's. Rebounding also. He definitely isn't a great shooter though...but a great team doesn't need a high scoring pg if he can find the other scorers.

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Bad trade. Milwaukee got worse after acquiring him. Good size and that's about it. Poor shooter and his floor general ship sucks. Brandon Knight is considered to be a huge upgrade. Consider that for a moment.

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Considering...
http://arizonasports.com/story/545285/e ... rs-in-nba/

Whoops.

Guess who else is on there? Carmelo.

You certainly have a 'type.'

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He can be both overrated and still be a better player than MCW.

Carmelo Anthony will be in the Hall of Fame. The Knicks are about .500 with him playing about 0-9 without him.

Lastly, you have resorted to scouring the Internet to find an obscure ESPN scribe in order to advance an argument. No one has ever heard of the guy, but since he says Anthony and Knight are overrated it is such?

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I went to compare them directly and it was the very top article on Google. Meaning it has had a lot of views and Google had deemed it relevant.

Or do you need me to further explain how search engines work?

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The basketball hall of fame. Etwaun Moore is like two more 20 point games from making that himself. Not exactly prestigious.

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Jimmy Butler won't be there so it can't be all that easy to get in.

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Unless you think he's going to all of a sudden regress, which almost never happens with players his age and track record, he probably is going to get in. It's really not all that difficult if you're pretty good for awhile.

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The guy who wrote is not exactly known in Basketball circles. Who the hell is he? I don't care about views on a Google search engine. That's your credible source? It's amateur hour

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It's a little more difficult than that. They don't just throw anyone in. A few all star appearances usually won't place you in either. Butler has a lot of work to do. His career isn't even touching that of Deng
At the same age. Deng won't be in either.

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He is more reputable than KC Johnson.

Vince Marotta covers sports for Arizona's ESPN affiliate.

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I don't know where you got that impression from. Butler is quite demonstrably better right now than Deng has ever been, and still seems to be improving every year.

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The ascension of Butler is rather recent. He really just came into his own last yr. At lot of people were not sold on him before last yr. Deng was far more accomplished as a player by the time he was 27. Butler may turn out to be better in the long run, but Deng's career at 27 was better.

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If you want to go down this road, you have to compare after respective NBA seasons, not age. But regardless, you might wanna just agree right now that Butler is far better than Deng ever was and their careers probably won't be close at the end of each. I agree he was a late bloomer and before the start of last season I was among his doubters. But you just look silly as hell denying his ability at this point.

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You're looking sort of silly arguing that a guy that's 27 yrs old and has only had 1 1/2 seasons of playing at an all star level is a Hall of Famer. It's not about ability it's about performance. There are guys with much more ability than Butler that are not in the Hall of Fame.

NBA hall is not that easy. What makes it easier is the fact that it takes into account achievements that occurred outside of the NBA.

You had to very good to great somewhere is all that says. A guy that has been an All Star for a few seasons is not a Hall of Famer. He would have to do more than that.

Luol Deng was a more accomplished player by the age of 27 than Jimmy Butler. That's a fact. Butler is more talented but it's not like Deng was a bum. He made All Star teams.

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A crazy person believes everyone else is crazy and he himself is the sane one.

Food for thought.

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It's crazy to think that Jimmy Butler is not a Hall of Famer? There are guys that sort of know their stuff, but you are not one of them. I won't embarrass them by naming them. There can be disagreements. That's the lifeblood of message boards.

You're a lightweight when it comes to hoops though. This is but another example. MCW? that's who the Bulls should target?


Here are but a couple of the guys that the Bulls should have "targeted" according to you.

1. Lance Stephenson
2. Chandler Parsons

I'm sure that there are numerous others to be found in your idiotic trade or free agent proposals. Your ignorance regarding sports is astounding.

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