i dont know why were surprised

this is the guy who said he doesnt want to have sore knees when hes in meetings.

that was not a joke, it is not a joke, and it will not be a joke.

he actually believes that, and we know this because of his continuing actions.

rose is a bitch, and i feel sorry for his kids for having a bitch for a dad.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

Ha. No. Have you ever seen that Dream Team documentary? They talk about how Jordan was so obsessed with competition that he only slept a couple hours a night when they were in Barcelona. He would play cards till 3 or 4, sleep until 7 or 8, wake up, play 18 or 36 holes of golf, and then go to practice or the game. Repeat every day. He wouldn't even understand Rose.

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Gibson was Wennington's most ValueBull tonight, just FYI. Gibson does the important things that get overlooked sometimes.

Everyone except long time guy and Derrick Rose know Jimmy Butler is 1) excellent and 2) the centerpiece of the team.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Butler as the Bulls best player means that the Bulls are not that good. If you are comfortable with that arrangement, then cool. I'm alsowondering why there is not such anger and vitriol because Rose sat out with "General soreness". Isn't that what most people want? Shouldn't any time that he sits out be cause for celebration.

It sure was a nip and tuck game without his 61st ranked per playing ass out. Given that ranking every first and second string PG should be better. Why all the fuss when he really makes little difference anyway?

I know it's just another reason that his soft ass has shown that he is well, soft. That's why people are mad. Why aren't they happy about him not playing?

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Because the Bulls gave him $100M and his teammates not only play hurt they play injured.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Are we sure that Hoiberg isn't really VDN in a mask?

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Well it's not fair to judge him yet because Mike Dunleavy hasn't been around this season.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

This whole team is unlikeable. Butler is unlikeable. Rose is unlikeable. Gasol is unlikeable. The coach is a faceless drone. The only guy who was likeable is out for the year and likely gone after the season.

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Post of the year.

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But remember it was just last yr that the money didn't matter because it was insured.

He hasn't missed many games this yr relatively speaking. I've heard a number of people state how they wish he didn't play, and tonight he didn't so why should we be mad. Aaron Brooks is more than capable of filling in, or so the story goes.

I wouldn't give Rose max money. Hell I probably wouldn't resign him at all. I'm resigned to him being here though. As long as he is on the roster then he is the best point they have. He isn't their best player anymore but he needs to be in order for them to be contenders. He may never be that again but as long as he is on the team there is a chance he could be. He has played really well the past month.

This team is shot. They have to ride the next yr and a half out and then look to break it up. Their window has closed.

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= Rose is good

= Rose is bad

= Rose is never going to be good again, but there's a chance he could be.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Their "best" player was neither 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team all NBA last yr. Probably will not be that this yr. Either. He is routinely being outplayed by wings these days and is beginning to generate a reputation for disappearing in 4th quarters.

Butler is a third option on a championship contending team. His ascension as best player has coincided with the demise of the team. I'm not blaming him for the demise of the team, but I am suggesting that he is not the difference making guy that he is being promoted to be. He is a good piece to the puzzle but he is not a guy you build around. The Bulls were losing with him in the lineup too. Rose and Gasol were playing at a high level also. Good 2's and 3' are exposing him with regularity, with Hayward being the latest.

He can be the best player, but in the grand scheme of things what does that really get you? I think we are seeing it now.

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Which player has gotten better under the leadership of Duh Mayor? Defensively they have gotten worse......just listen to Kendall Gill the can't defend the pick and roll.Plus 3 players have question his coaching. Now for you. how is Duh Mayor helping this team to win games?

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Doug McDermott has gotten better.

Rose is playing better than last year also.

Their defense is getting worse but that has to do with personnel more than schemes. The loss of Noah was huge and I always believed that.

The Bulls were missing 4 of their top 6 players last night.

They couldn't defend pick and roll last yr either. The defense is getting worse but that has to do with rim protection and rebounding more than anything.

Hoiberg made a mistake in not giving the Gasol/Noah tandem a chance. For a guy allegedly in the assessment phase he sure was certain that they couldn't work playing together.

Their offense is better and the NBA is an offensive league. They get better looks than last yr. The Bulls have D league caliber guys playing big minutes and that is the problem. That falls on GarPax more than anything.

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Bulls have a negative point differential. This isn't an offensve league. It is a league about outscoring your opponent; it has always been. The 2015-2016 Bulls don't outscore opponents. We don't only have to blame Hoiberg. We can blame the front office...as I've been doing for years. As you refused to do until recently.

IMU 2016 - Ahead of the Pack

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

From the man who knew too little.

You're just not good at this.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w ... 2v1He8gdKQ

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w ... bC8b_pQjkg


Let me explain it further for you.

Top 6 offensive teams are contenders.

3 out of the top 6 defensive teams are non contenders.

You keep talking about the objective is to "score more points than your opponent" like it's a revelation.

You may want to hold off on that victory lap chief.

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Hoiberg is Trestman-lite at best: maybe knowledgeable here and there about aspects of the game, but can't really players around his cause. He's got nothing going for him this year except destroying the defensive identity created when Thibs was here.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

You also might not have noticed that your link shows last year's Bulls offense was vastly superior to this year's Bulls' offense. After you spending the last 4 months saying otherwise. So, please, don't mind if I take that victory lap twice.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Total Non-Sequitor. That means it is unrelated to my post.

In true Rubioesque fashion

Top 6 offensive teams in the league are contenders


3 out of the top 6 defensive teams are non-contenders.


Sort of proves the point that it is an offensive league doesn't it?

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You dun goofed! Your months of effort not undone by me...but by you yourself! That simply just has to suck.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Another non sequitor. Has absolutely nothing to do with the best offensive teams also being the best teams.

This Bulls teams is going up in smoke. Has more to do with injury than anything. I know Thibs would have had them to the No. 1 spot in the East. I know. I know. He can part the Red Sea with a mere glance. He just can't seem to be the No. 1 guy on any team's coaching list. Another job opening yet no Thibs.

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Thibs did lead a worse roster to the playoffs and had an injured Bulls team playing much better last year. Reality is Hoiberg isn't a better coach than Thibs at least right now. He also doesn't appear to be a good leader. All of this falls on management. They put him in an awful position. Gave him players that didn't fit his system and didn't hire quality assistants to help him grow into the position like Golden State did with Kerr. The players know that he's management's guy so that doesn't help a lot with growing. The Bulls 3 best players (Noah, Butler and Gasol) have criticized him and Taj sort of took a shot at him last night.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

They will make the playoffs this year. It is a lost year though. He hasn't shown himself to be better than Thibs and he is making mistakes. He should have started Noah and Gasol together. He should have corraled and benched Mirotic also. He benched Mirotic but never redefined his role. If Mirotic did not want to change his style of play he should not have continued to play him.

In terms of Gibson Gibson stinks. He is not really good and could be directly linked to two losses from last week. I hope this draws more attention to his unproductive ass. His lunch pale hard hat routine has run its course. Undersized four man with limited ability is not conducive to winning championships. Not as a starter and its arguable if he is even a good backup at this point.

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It took us 4 months to get here, but all now agree that Tom Thibodeau teams were more dynamic and successful offensively than this Fred Hoiberg team.

Tom Thibodeau should come back, but not as the coach. As president.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

I'm all for it. Draymond Green would be here if he had that kind of power.

I came to the depressing realization today that even in the event that both of Garpax go at the end of the year, the Bulls will still most likely handicap any search for a replacement because Jerry will make prospective candidates commit to keeping Fred and his contract just because he won't want to pay 3 coaches at once. This feels like the Bears with Lovie and Emery all over again, only somehow more dire.

Paxson is not going anywhere. It will never happen until he wants to retire.

Jerry will probably make Gar fall on his sword, and a new toadie will take his place.

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If we had the following, admittedly simplistic, grading criteria with which to judge the Bulls under Pax's tenure, I'd say they fall in the "good" range.

Elite
Good
Mediocre
Bad

After years of middle-level good in the mid-2000s, Pax correctly tried to take a leap into "elite" by signing James. Didn't work out, but Rose and Thibs got them as close as possible to "elite" until Rose's injuries made any jump into elite basically impossible with him as the centerpiece.

Given that you struck out on James twice, I'm not sure how else the Bulls could have taken the next step into elite status. They look like they swung and missed on the Hoiberg hire, and for that Forman probably has to go. Though I don't like not making a finals in nearly 20 years, I'm just not sure we have anyone to blame here - they've been good to very good under Pax, and it's not like the moves they could have made but didn't would have definitely elevated them into elite status. He's also avoided hemorrhaging assets like the Nets and mid-2000s Knicks do/did, so there's always upside when the off-season rolls around. I think that's good management.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

I think that model needs to die a slow death. Paxson attempted to insulate himself from criticism and the public eye by hiring Forman. Very bureaucratic but it is clearly not working. Forman appears to have more input than your normal lackey. If that is the case, then one or both needs to leave.

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Paxson pulled them out of the debacle that was the Krause years. He has to get credit for that. He has missed on some picks and free agents but he also his share of success stories. He has drafted well for the most part and the only free agent signing that he bombed on was Ben Wallace.

He was the most significant part of bringing the Bulls back to respectability. He may not be the guy to eventually bring back championships though. He has flaws as a GM that will prevent him from being to take the next step imo.

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