I will let the Sox faithful offer some up first.

Expect lotsa pruning here.

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Got $100 says my guy Abreu has a better OPS for the season. Minimum 400 PA for each player. Wager open to VERIFIED posters only.

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In for my guy Jose.

And before Cubbie Nation goes crazy, they were the ones that set that as the standard.

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I'll bet $100 with FF for OPS, straight up.

I'm at a slight disadvantage, but only slight.

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I think $100 on the OPS and $100 on $100 on the WAR is a fair offer.

In the event IMU would allow me in on 50% stake....

FF can syndicate out his $200 Brick on the line as well.

Do we have a deal?

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

I would do a WAR bet as well split 50/50 on each if FF and Rick are down.

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The offer is "LIVE ACTION"

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

No interest in a WAR bet. Got no problem conceding that Rizzo will probably have a higher WAR.

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IN ops bet.

I want min 500 plate appearances. Not this shit where abreu sits out July-Sept with 850 OPS because shit conditioning leads to an injury.

Moving it to 500 PA minimum shouldn't be an issue. Both should easily get near 700. Abreu had 668 last year, Rizzo had just over 700.

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Whatever PA is needed to qualify for batting title. If that's included in OPS bet then I'm in

502

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<º)))><

Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

In.

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Not doing WAR though. WAR kind of sucks as a statistic.

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.850 OPS won't win this.

So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree!

I think professional softball leagues might be able to pay him big money.

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Win probability added

I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it.

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How about the errors prevented? Example - Mark Grace saved Dunston how many errors? For the record,...I hated Mark Grace!

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And if the two players are nearly identical hitters what do you do? Flip a coin?

Even if that ballplayer doesn't help the team win as many games? Understood. Can't say I agree though.

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I think you'll win more games with the better hitting 1B.

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There should be a stat for that.............Hmmmmm?

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

There is no reason to believe that there is a correct one right now.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

So it sounds like you do want to bet on WAR and WPA.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

OPS is good with me.

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Right ,

Just admit you walked into your own poop on that one.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

How about Games Played?

Rizzo -6 ?

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

WPA seems fair

Abreu -Rizzo
4.3 - 4.0
2.2- 7.3

We've discussed WAR for hours on here before and the consensus is that it is a flawed statistic even with the name.

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What is your issue with WPA? Its pretty good.

And if you're doing OPS with two guys in different leagues, you should at least do OPS+