I resemble that remark ...

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Really?

Donald, you're far from douchey. A raging penis, perhaps, but definitely not douchey. And I mean that with the utmost affection.

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We all have private ails. The troublemakers are they who need public cures for their private ails.- Eric Hoffer

Exactly. JORR probably doesn't even realize that women have to deal with the concept of red/pink being considered a more feminine color!

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Matt did about 18 shots of whiskey with me from about 12 noon until about 10 that night many years ago. Because of that he'll always be my guy.

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GO BEARS!!!

Let's just hope your son is never falsely accused of rape

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

That's on the list of things that I hope he'll never be associated with.

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GO BEARS!!!

Maybe all his female friends and relations don't have any problems so he just assumes everything is great.

That doesn't actually answer the question.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

So what are the problems your female acquaintances have?

Anyway, everyone has problems. I guess a person is entitled to go around in a permanent state of victimhood complaining about how hard they have it if that's what they want to do. A man could do that too. Identity politics suck.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

[quote="Joe Orr Road Rod"
Let me rephrase- what exactly is so hard about being an American woman in 2016?[/quote]
Driving

Being the butt of vicious jokes! Poor women.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

My female friends and relations don't have a problem with red/pink being associated more with women than men either. You'd have to be pretty sensitive to be offended by a color.

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Driving[/quote]

Woah nellie!

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Seriously, I think they are stereotyped and prejudged like any other minority group (not the same level)

I think the whole Bossy thing has some merit.

Unless you are comparing them to women in other countries the answer is a lot. While a lot of progress has been made they're still minorities and still aren't treated equally to men. Not sure how you can ask this question.

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How are they a minority exactly? And could you specifically explain how they are "treated worse than men" and by whom? And don't give me some 78 cents bullshit that has been disproven over and over.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Minorities? Whiskey tango foxtrot

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http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Well, they aren't a minority. And yeah, there are jokes that make fun of women and jokes that make fun of men. The average sitcom is based around the fact that a man is an idiot who can't take a piss without his wife pointing his cock for him. I'm not complaining about it either. It's hard to live as a man. So what?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Women in America have it almost as hard as white men...

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Nobody can really say what exactly is so hard about being an American woman in 2016. Some of you just know that it is. Not that this manosphere is the right place to ask the question. Maybe Spaulding will show up.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Who would have guessed Nas would be one of the few people whose worldview isn't distorted by white male privilege

And yet, you still can't seem to explain what is so hard about being a woman.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

So, about that whole red/blue color thing. Do you intend to explain the harm in it? Talk about distorted views.

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I bet you could think of some reasons if you tried, but for some reason you have a blind spot to it.

So you don't have an answer.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

JORR is owning this thread

No, Im not talking about jokes.

In my experience with office jobs (actually any job as this happened at the place I caddied at), any woman who is assertive at all is labeled "a bitch" or under the guy's breath saying it "on her period"

Same attitude from a man is labeled as a "go-getter" or at worst "tough, but fair"

I think many people look at women as the weaker sex. There are people who are uncomfortable with a female boss or even doctor.

One of my old bosses, now a colleague, will gladly tell you women are worse at pretty much everything. This is a guy who at one time influenced who we hired. He literally didnt hire some people simply because of their gender.

You're a guy who understands that institutional racism exists. You believe institutional sexism does not?

What's the general harm in being told something untrue? Blue isn't a man's color and pink isn't a girl's color. Is it a grave threat to our society? No, it's just something stupid we cling to for no good reason other that some people have a vested interest in defining things by gender. If pink's really a girl's color why not also just believe a woman's place is in the home. It's just the way it is.