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Wow, I was wondering if the board would ever come back. It's like Christmas!

Anyone playing the Peter Pan tomorrow? I was going to head over to the Oakbrook OTB this evening and grab a program. Adventist is running in that race, which I recall having done well in Wood (3rd). My guess is he'll be the favorite in this G2 race against lower class talent.

I doubt anyone is going to beat Nyquist in the Preakness. There's been a lot of talk about Stradavari, but I think Collected is a horse that should do well and hit the board along with Gun Runner and Outwork, if he's entered. Not too high on Exaggerator for this race, since he comes from behind, when this is a speed race.

Back on the Derby, I think Pletcher blew it with Outwork. Here you have a horse whose breeding screams distance, and yet the horse faltered down the stretch. That's all on Pletcher for not conditioning the horse right. Same goes for Destin, who finished 6th.


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In the Peter Pan, Jerkens has a potential monster in Unified. Probably Belmont Stakes bound if he romps tomorrow.

The better race will be the Man O War stakes. I like a horse that's 10-1 but I see that number going down. If you all have any spare change, put something on the #5 Go Around. He will go to the front and set the pace and they will not catch him. Chad Brown's horses will be coming late, but it will be too late.

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In the Peter Pan, Jerkens has a potential monster in Unified. Probably Belmont Stakes bound if he romps tomorrow.

The better race will be the Man O War stakes. I like a horse that's 10-1 but I see that number going down. If you all have any spare change, put something on the #5 Go Around. He will go to the front and set the pace and they will not catch him. Chad Brown's horses will be coming late, but it will be too late.


I pounded the hell out of Unified in the Bay Shore, but that was 7 furlongs and the front at Aqueduct that day was near unbeatable. I'm not sure this horse was meant for the distance.

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In the Peter Pan, Jerkens has a potential monster in Unified. Probably Belmont Stakes bound if he romps tomorrow.

The better race will be the Man O War stakes. I like a horse that's 10-1 but I see that number going down. If you all have any spare change, put something on the #5 Go Around. He will go to the front and set the pace and they will not catch him. Chad Brown's horses will be coming late, but it will be too late.


I pounded the hell out of Unified in the Bay Shore, but that was 7 furlongs and the front at Aqueduct that day was near unbeatable. I'm not sure this horse was meant for the distance.


He's the favorite at 4/5, while Adventist is 6-1. I'm kind of scratching my head about Unified when he's run only two races and the longest distance he's gone so far is 7 furlongs. The Peter Pan is 3 furlongs more at 1 1/8 mi. All you have is faith that Unified can go the distance.

Actually, this seems a fairly easy race to handicap. Just box Adventist, Unified and Governor Malibu. Should hit at least the exacta with that, if not also the tri-fecta. Throw in Decorated Soldier for the super.


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Unified has put up speed figures of 111 and 109 in his two races. That's the answer why he's the favorite.

Before the Wood, Adventist put up similar figures of 103 and 107. It went down in the Wood to 99 because of muddy conditions and the horse being five or six wide around the far turn, but he still fired down the stretch to take third. I'd favor Adventist in the race, because he outclasses Unified and you know he'll be strong down the stretch. So he's my bet.

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Hold on a sec. What's this I see in the program??

You have a horse named "Wild About Deb" in this race at 8/1. It broke it's maiden in its last race, which is considered bad, because typically such horses do not win the Peter Pan. Yet, if you look at what this horse did, it's astonishing:

In only it's second ever race, it won at 1 1/8 mi. in San Anita in 1:49:02, equaling Nyquist's time at the same distance in the (G1) Florida Derby. Posted a 108 speed figure.

Now that's a "Wow."


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The Scoop on the Peter Pan:


Unified, Adventist Hope To Stamp Ticket To Belmont Stakes With Win In Peter Pan
by Jenny Kellner/NYRA | 05.13.2016 | 12:33pm

Eight up-and-coming 3-year-olds, each with an eye on the Grade 1, $1.5 million Belmont Stakes, will line up Saturday in the Grade 2, $200,000 Peter Pan, Belmont Park's traditional prep for the final leg of the Triple Crown on June 11.

The 1 1/8-mile Peter Pan is one of four graded stakes at Belmont on Saturday's 11-race card, which also features the first Grade 1 of the year, the $400,000 Man o' War at 1 3/8 miles on the inner turf, along with the Grade 2, $250,000 Ruffian for fillies and mares and the Grade 3, $150,000 Beaugay for turf fillies and mares.

The four races comprise an All Graded Stakes Pick 4 that begins with the Ruffian in Race 7 (post time approximately 4:41 p.m. ET).

First race post time on Saturday is 1:30 p.m.

Trainer Bill Mott will be represented by Lost Iron, a two-length maiden winner at the Peter Pan distance last month at Aqueduct Racetrack. Six years ago, the Hall of Famer sent Drosselmeyer out to finish second in the Dwyer – which took the place of the Peter Pan on the calendar that year – in advance of his 13-1 upset in the Belmont. Mott hasn't hit the board in two subsequent starts in the Peter Pan, but is hoping Lost Iron will be the one to emulate the 2010 Belmont winner.

“He's doing well,” Mott reported from Saratoga. “He's a horse that seems like he'd want a distance of ground. We'll see how he holds up in this type of company; either we'll move forward, or take a step back. We're hopeful he'll show us enough to give encouragement to look at the Belmont.”

Lost Iron, who carries the colors of Harvey Clarke, will leave from post position 8 with Junior Alvarado aboard. He was listed at 15-1 on the morning line.

Christophe Clement, who won the 2014 Belmont with Peter Pan hero Tonalist, returns with the stakes-winning Governor Malibu, who has finished first, second or third in all six of his career starts. Most recently the New York-bred son of Malibu Moon, who won the Gander at Aqueduct Racetrack in February, put a nose in front at the wire in the Federico Tesio at Laurel Park, only to be disqualified to second for interference in the stretch.
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Governor Malibu, 10-1 on the morning line, will be ridden by Joel Rosario. The pair will leave from post position 5.

The lone graded stakes winner in the field and the odds-on favorite in the Peter Pan is the lightly raced Unified, who in his second start was an eye-catching victor in the Grade 3, seven-furlong Bay Shore on April 9 at the Big A. Trained by Jimmy Jerkens for Centennial Farms, Unified will be ridden by Jose Ortiz from post position 7. He was listed at 4-5 on the morning line.

Expected to attract support as well is the Leah Gyarmati-trained Adventist, who while winless this year has racked up third-place finishes in a trio of graded stakes, including the Grade 1 Wood Memorial on April 9. The Treadway Stable color-bearer was excluded from the Kentucky Derby after sitting at No. 22 on the points list, but Gyarmati had the son of Any Given Saturday ready for any eventuality.

“We didn't do anything differently with him after the Wood whether he was going to the Derby or not,” said Gyarmati of Adventist, who has three subsequent breezes at Belmont, most recently covering six furlongs in an easy 1:16.40 on Monday. “I'm very pleased with the way he's been training, and I think he will appreciate the big turns at Belmont. We're hopeful; we'll see how he runs Saturday.”

Irad Ortiz, Jr. will be in the irons aboard Adventist, who drew post position 3 and was tabbed at 4-1 on the morning line.

Coming in from California is Wild About Deb, who like Lost Iron broke his maiden at 1 1/8 miles last month, albeit at Santa Anita Park. Wild About Deb, a son of Eskendereya, arrived in New York Tuesday and trained over the Belmont main track Wednesday morning.

“We think a lot of this horse,” said Phil D'Amato, who trains Wild About Deb for Marisa Lizza. “The timing was right from his maiden win [May 9], and his owners live in New York, so things just came together. If he runs well, there's a possibility we could look at the Belmont.”

Trevor McCarthy will ride Wild About Deb, 8-1 on the morning line, from post position 6.

Rounding out the field are Supah Czech, a last-out maiden winner at Laurel; the maiden Singleton from Hall of Fame trainer Nick Zito, and Northern Spur winner Decorated Soldier, making his New York and graded stakes debut for trainer Todd Pletcher.


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Like Governor Malibu in the Peter Pan Rosario is back to being Rosario.....Spmack horse might steal the MOW with a yielding turf...distance might be a queation I'm goin with Kaigun and Jersey Joe class of this field good luck

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Good call on Gov Malibu WWN...didn't win but almost ran down Unified....that being said, neither are ready for Nyquist.


You all see my horse Go Around currently bet down from 10/1 to 4/1 in the Man o War? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Good call on Gov Malibu WWN...didn't win but almost ran down Unified....that being said, neither are ready for Nyquist.


You all see my horse Go Around currently bet down from 10/1 to 4/1 in the Man o War? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Was pissed Rosario didn't stay on the rail.....and my horse in the MOW just sat behind traffic...I hate that!

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Unified is the real deal. Impressive win today. Hope he's in the Belmont.

I was on Wild About Deb, who finished third. I thought I was on to something when the New York money bid the horse down below 5-1 after having been 8-1 or 10-1 yesterday. Beaten by about three lengths, which I think is respectable for this horse coming off its Maiden win.

Again, I get busted by just one horse in my trifecta---Governor Malibu. The horse was decent, I just thought W.A.D. and Adventist were better.


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Your Preakness winner :D

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Who?

I like Uncle Lino with the upset.


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Who?

I like Uncle Lino with the upset.

http://www.keeneland.com/racing/race-replay


Go to April 17th 2nd race haven't been so impresses with a horse in quite awhile :wink:

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I just don't see anyone beating Nyquist in Baltimore.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I just don't see anyone beating Nyquist in Baltimore.



2 weeks ago you liked Gun Runner and Brody's Cause now he's unbeatable.....by the way should we call you Grand Poohba?

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I just don't see anyone beating Nyquist in Baltimore.



2 weeks ago you liked Gun Runner and Brody's Cause now he's unbeatable.....by the way should we call you Grand Poohba?


First, he's gone a mile and a quarter since then. Second, I didn't say he's unbeatable. I said I don't see anyone who is going to face him beating him this Saturday. I think it's more likely that Stradavari doesn't hit the board than that Nyquist gets beat. Finally, you can call Nas Grand Poohba.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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I just don't see anyone beating Nyquist in Baltimore.



2 weeks ago you liked Gun Runner and Brody's Cause now he's unbeatable.....by the way should we call you Grand Poohba?


First, he's gone a mile and a quarter since then. Second, I didn't say he's unbeatable. I said I don't see anyone who is going to face him beating him this Saturday. I think it's more likely that Stradavari doesn't hit the board than that Nyquist gets beat. Finally, you can call Nas Grand Poohba.

Nas has a phobia about being called Grand

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Uncle Lino set a track record his last time out in the California Chrome Stakes, besting Dortmund's performance there in Dec. 2014. He should be fresher than Nyquist, having not run in the Kentucky Derby. If he gets a decent draw, I can see him challenging the favorite.

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Got my $30 on Uncle Lino on Bovada at 25-1. Waited too long, had 33-1 last night.


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Friday the 12th race at Pimlico Metaboss....sssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Reported today that Gun Runner is out for the Preakness.

JORR has been eerily silent about this race. Just going to go all in on Nyquist for 2/5?

How should I fill out my tri- and superfectas other than Uncle Lino and Nyquist? I have to chose between Exaggerator, Collected and Stradivari. Who's the best of that bunch?


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Reported today that Gun Runner is out for the Preakness.

JORR has been eerily silent about this race. Just going to go all in on Nyquist for 2/5?

How should I fill out my tri- and superfectas other than Uncle Lino and Nyquist? I have to chose between Exaggerator, Collected and Stradivari. Who's the best of that bunch?



Well, first off the takeout at Pimlico is egregious. And I don't see any circumstance where Nyquist is gonna lose this race. I may bet a Nyquist-Collected exacta.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Dignified Rube wrote:
Reported today that Gun Runner is out for the Preakness.

JORR has been eerily silent about this race. Just going to go all in on Nyquist for 2/5?

How should I fill out my tri- and superfectas other than Uncle Lino and Nyquist? I have to chose between Exaggerator, Collected and Stradivari. Who's the best of that bunch?



Well, first off the takeout at Pimlico is egregious. And I don't see any circumstance where Nyquist is gonna lose this race. I may bet a Nyquist-Collected exacta.


I read Uncle Mo posted a blazing 108 Beyer in his last race. That doesn't get your attention?

The question is whether Exaggerator can stay close enough to the pace to make it a horse race. That hasn't been his style.


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Dignified Rube wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Dignified Rube wrote:
Reported today that Gun Runner is out for the Preakness.

JORR has been eerily silent about this race. Just going to go all in on Nyquist for 2/5?

How should I fill out my tri- and superfectas other than Uncle Lino and Nyquist? I have to chose between Exaggerator, Collected and Stradivari. Who's the best of that bunch?



Well, first off the takeout at Pimlico is egregious. And I don't see any circumstance where Nyquist is gonna lose this race. I may bet a Nyquist-Collected exacta.


I read Uncle Mo posted a blazing 108 Beyer in his last race. That doesn't get your attention?

The question is whether Exaggerator can stay close enough to the pace to make it a horse race. That hasn't been his style.


Do you mean Uncle Lino?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Dignified Rube wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Dignified Rube wrote:
Reported today that Gun Runner is out for the Preakness.

JORR has been eerily silent about this race. Just going to go all in on Nyquist for 2/5?

How should I fill out my tri- and superfectas other than Uncle Lino and Nyquist? I have to chose between Exaggerator, Collected and Stradivari. Who's the best of that bunch?



Well, first off the takeout at Pimlico is egregious. And I don't see any circumstance where Nyquist is gonna lose this race. I may bet a Nyquist-Collected exacta.


I read Uncle Mo posted a blazing 108 Beyer in his last race. That doesn't get your attention?

The question is whether Exaggerator can stay close enough to the pace to make it a horse race. That hasn't been his style.


Do you mean Uncle Lino?


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Dignified Rube wrote:
Reported today that Gun Runner is out for the Preakness.

JORR has been eerily silent about this race. Just going to go all in on Nyquist for 2/5?

How should I fill out my tri- and superfectas other than Uncle Lino and Nyquist? I have to chose between Exaggerator, Collected and Stradivari. Who's the best of that bunch?



Well, first off the takeout at Pimlico is egregious. And I don't see any circumstance where Nyquist is gonna lose this race. I may bet a Nyquist-Collected exacta.










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That's just great. Uncle Lino and Nyquist 2 and 3.

That means Lino goes to the lead, and Nyquist stalks. Should be fantastic.


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