Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Eh fuck it there's a finals game starting soon

See here's where you really miss hawk, he'd tell you there's still 8 innings to go

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

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MLB is the sport where draft order is by far the least important.

If you want to sound close to intelligent, talk about international free agent bonus pools.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Thats the best you can do? A condescening eyeroll when you know im right?

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F5.

The next time you're right about MLB will be the first time you're right about MLB.

I will buy you drinks that night.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Nice edit.

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For Frank, as apparently edits should not be allowed.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

I'd be okay with that.

Instead on the South Side you get James Shields and Adam Dunn.

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It helps greatly if your front office can make more than 3 good 1st-round picks every quarter-century.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Never would an eyeroll be more approriate than right here.

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You and 312player are now in full agreement with each other. You comfortable with that seat?

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Frank's rifht.

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I'm a gentleman so I won't jump down his throat for that edit.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Sox have also had pretty high draft picks lately.

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Not on purpose though.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

And he wouldn't speak through 7 of them.

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I think he would have been speaking this time.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Hawk " That is the GREATEST comeback I have ever seen"

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The Cubs went through a couple year stretch where they were obviously losing games on purpose, and still won more games than the Sox.

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Cubs highest overall picks since 2012: 6, 2, 4, 9

Sox highest overall picks since 2012: 13, 17, 3, 8, 10

The Cubs averaged a 5-6th pick overall, the Sox have averaged 10-11th. In reality, picks 3-15 tend (not very well, though) to be interchangeable. However, a #2 overall pick (like the cubs had in 2013 and turned into Kris Bryant) tends to be much more valuable than the next grouping of picks, and the Sox have only ever climbed as high as 3rd overall (Rodon).

Cubs avg=25
Sox avg = 10.2

Rodon was the consenus 1-1 pick going into the season ..he slipped a little but was skipped by Houston who instead took Brady Aiken who had agreed to a deal. The Marlins also took a HS pitcher Tyler Kolek. Having Boras as his agent did not help Rodon.

If you seriously think that there is no difference between 3 and 15 you are not being realistic

2010: Manny Machado #3 Jake Skole #15 Machado easy
2011: Trevor Bauer #3 Jed Bradley #15 Bauer easy
2012: Mike Zunino #3 Tyler Naquin #15 a wash at this point
2013: Jon Gray #3 Braden Shipley #15 Gray easy
2014: Carlos Rodon #3 Sean Newcomb #15 Rodon easy
2015: Brendan Rodgers #3 Trent Clark #15 Rodgers ranked #40 by BA Clark #49... too early to call

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I cropped the obvious "going for it" outlier, as it's not fair to include the pitfalls of "going for it" when discussing the rewards of perhaps-forced sucktitude.




http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2013/6 ... raft-picks

According to draft data from 1990-2006, that just has been the case. Not clearly, undoubtedly the same, but tending towards that.



There is a precipitous drop-off in talent as you progress pick-by-pick in the first round. Of course you would much rather be picking at #3 than #10-15, but you would much, much, much rather be picking at #2.

Frazier has Dunn/LaRoche disease

since theo has taken over, the sox have drafted ahead of the Cubs 3 out of 4 years. Nice stat.

Again, this past draft isn't being counted, for obvious reasons for the Cubs, as they are no longer in "rebuild" mode. Furthermore, there is a severe drop-off even from the #2 to #3 pick. Good reading.

that is revisionist history. They blew away expectations last year. And as I have heard than enough from sox nation, they were simply a third place team in the central.

The other problem I have with the Cubs not going for it. I'm on my phone so I can't post it. Go look up Cubs sox payrolls. They never diverge by more than five million dollars. When Cubs cut payroll so did the sox.

Last, regarding the gap in 2 and 3. That is completely draft dependent. Bryant wasn't a consensus pick at 2. There were no true top prospects that draft. And the sox didn't get shorted at three. That was a three player draft. The Cubs went under slot at 4 because of that. You can just admit it, theo can draft. I remember being pissed the sox got Rodon while the Cubs got a fat kid from Indiana. Hail theo.

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

The year the Cubs drafted Schwarber, the Sox drafted Rodon 1 spot ahead of Schwarber after the Sox finished with a record WORSE than the Cubs WHO WERE TANKING! Sure, the Sox try to win each year. They just aren't very good at putting a team together. They draft and develop position players poorly, sign mostly older players past their prime and are afraid to truly rebuild, because their fans lack the loyalty to allow the team that option. Instead they try to catch lightning in a bottle year after year and it's just not working.

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Go Cubs!!!!