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[quote="..... Chandler could have been a better trading chip when they were trying to acquire Garnett and Kobe. Unfortunately that $17.5M they had that offseason was wasted on Wallace and Griffin.



That would be great getting both Garnett and Kobe, though would probably be a little more than $17.5M.

A 22/22 nite. (5th place) )12.3 avg vs Wallace's 8.9 Rebounds. Great move by Pax. Trade away the kids before they peak. Add Tyson to the list of ex-Bulls we could have used along with Brand and Artestt.

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Chandler had 22 points and 22 rebounds tonight.


Watched the game, and he was great. Constantly, tipping the ball to himself, and able to put the ball back into the basket. His hands aren't brick anymore!


Playing with the best PG in the NBA doesnt hurt either.


Did Steve Nash or Jason Kidd retire? :shock:


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Chandler had 22 points and 22 rebounds tonight.


Watched the game, and he was great. Constantly, tipping the ball to himself, and able to put the ball back into the basket. His hands aren't brick anymore!


Playing with the best PG in the NBA doesnt hurt either.


Did Steve Nash or Jason Kidd retire? :shock:


Nope, they would round out the top three.

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Farve Fan loves young guys.


Have you seen what he's been doing this year? Im definitely not alone in that opinion.

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There are a lot of great point guards in the league - Baron Davis is another guy that puts up great number, Deron Wiliams also to go with the names already mentioned, and I'm sure I'm leaving others off.


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For some reason a fast start makes someone the best at something in your eyes. He is one of the best PG's in the game but to forget what some of the other guys have done because he started fast doesn't make a lot of sense in my basketball world. How did AP do in his last 8 games? He rushed for 100 yards once.


I dont understand this logic. So because someone was the best at their profession in the past 5 years inherently makes them better currently? Dont forget LT has won as many playoff games as AP has.

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Generally someone has to play at a high level for more than a handful of games before they can be anointed "the best". You seem to overreact based on recent performances. I can already see it when the baseball season comes around. If a young guy has a great April you will call him the best player in the game. I love your posts but I feel you are a little outrageous when it comes to anointing players.


Its not like he's a rookie like AP. He has shown this ability in previous years, but like all great players is evolving at a very substantial level very early on in his career. At 24 years old he's a very real threat to become the first player in NBA history to average 20 ppg, 10 apg, and 3 spg. Just look at the talent around him and compare it to Nash and Kidd and how each of their respective team's are doing. It's not necessarily a knock on Nash and Kidd to say he is the best. He's one of the best young PG's to come around since probably a young Jason Kidd, and their are plenty of people saying these exact things, it's not like this is an extremely radical, outrageous opinion.

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NBA assist leaders
1. Nash 12.3 (has played one more game)
2. Kidd 10.7
3. Paul 10.3

I agree with Nas. Paul is one of the best point guards in the game -- but he's not the best right now. Favre's comments are a little over the top, when you consider that Nash is averaging a full two more assists a contest.

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NBA assist leaders
1. Nash 12.3 (has played one more game)
2. Kidd 10.7
3. Paul 10.3

I agree with Nas. Paul is one of the best point guards in the game -- but he's not the best right now. Favre's comments are a little over the top, when you consider that Nash is averaging a full two more assists a contest.



Wow talk about taking one stat and making that a little over the top. So I guess Jamal Tinsley is a better PG than Chauncey Billups because he averages more asissts. Paul is averaging more ppg than the other two guys, is getting more from the others around him, is leading the NBA in SPG also. Nash doesnt play defense, and Paul is a great defender, great in the passing lanes leading his team to easy scores. Nash is probably the best offensive PG in the NBA, but I think Paul is overall the best, closely followed by Kidd and then Nash. Greg Anthony also made a great point the other night when stating his case for why Paul is the best PG in the NBA, and he said he is the best(better than kidd and Nash) at setting up easy shots in the halfcourt, whereas alot of Nash's assists come on fast breaks and in transition.

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This is a Chandler vs Wallace thread. :wink:


I think Chandler might be better.

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So Steve Nash is just a better point-scoring, assisting version of Hinrich?
BTW, I'm saddened that Tyson has blossomed for another team. I don't know if I believe the Bulls made a mistake -- at the time of their decision.

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So Steve Nash is just a better point-scoring, assisting version of Hinrich?


Nash is a way better shooter, has way better vision, makes better passes, and makes his teammates better, Kirk is better defensively. They arent really all that similar.

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I never said that your statements were outrageous. Like most things on this board, they are debatable.

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I guess that bloody blow to the face and shot to the groin against the Spurs in last year's playoffs are examples of Nash's lack of defense. He can't even defend himself and prevent injuries.

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Ben Wallace suffers from more "General Soreness" than anyone else.
What the fuck Ben, you NEED NEED NEED the damned practice. Shoot some freaking free throws if you're too "sore" to do anything else. You are fucking miserable at free throws. you should be shooting a couple hundred in practice every day, until you creep up to a miserable 50% at least. NO excuse, NONE, for a pro to average 42%

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;_ylt= ... 24&prov=ap

Hornets blow out the Spurs in San Antonio by 24.
Chandler only scores 8 but outrebounds Duncan 12 to 8.


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Chris Paul had 23 pts, 17 asts, 9 rebs in an ass whooping of Denver yesterday. The Hornets have won like 8 or 9 in a row, and have the best record in the super stacked Western Conference right now. They dont have another All Star on their team. Chris Paul is quickly becoming a lock down defender at the point, and I still dont see how you can make an argument for Kidd or Nash being better at this point. CP's Ast/TO ratio kills theirs. His team is playing better but has less talent than the Suns but probably more than the Nets. This guy is amazing and has to be the front runner in what is a wide open MVP race at this point.

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