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Ichiro Suzuki is about to become the all-time hits leader. Or is he? Pete Rose doesn't think so.

Ichiro has 2,977 Major League Baseball hits to go along with his 1,278 hits in nine seasons in Japan. Add them up and the Miami Marlins outfielder is one hit shy of tying Rose's major league record of 4,256 hits.

"It sounds like in Japan, they're trying to make me the Hit Queen," Rose told USA Today Sports. "I'm not trying to take anything away from Ichiro -- he's had a Hall of Fame career -- but the next thing you know, they'll be counting his high school hits.

"I don't think you're going to find anybody with credibility say that Japanese baseball is equivalent to Major League Baseball. There are too many guys that fail here and then become household names there, like Tuffy Rhodes. How can he not do anything here and hit [a record-tying] 55 home runs [in 2001] over there? It has something to do with the caliber of personnel.''

Love that Rose was able to work in a Tuffy Rhodes reference.

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I hate Rose, but in this case he's right. Japanese baseball is not the big leagues.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

He would have done the same here. He was that good

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Sorry, but Ichiro total hits is not more impressive than Rose's all MLB hit total. Ichiro getting to 3k MLB hits when he began his MLB career at age 27 is to me way more impressive than his combined hit total.

BTW, what are the odds Pete Rose put a futures bet on Ichiro's final hit total 6+ years ago?

nobody cares about baseball anyway

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Perhaps, but he didn't.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

pete rose was a way better hitter anyway. who cares?

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Best hitter of a generation but no, this doesn't count. Rose is right and people should stop mentioning this as if it were a legit thing.

I think it's fair to mention it. Ichiro dominated MLB on Day1.

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top ten in OPS once.

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If that's the case, give Griffey the HR record. Without injuries, it would have been his.

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I'm sure that's the same.

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Good. Thanks, Nas.

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He was a slap hitter

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Anytime

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Henry Burris > Jay Cutler

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Yeah, he's like Matty Alou.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I was thinking a better Scotty Pods.

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This is idiotic. It isnt a debate and that isnt an insult to Ichiro either. Maybe he could have been if he started younger. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. (Maybe not anymore in this country though... )

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see Davis, Eric.

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He played better here.

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Ventura has the hit streak record at 58.....get a fuckin grip

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Just add in Pete Rose's minor league stats. I'm sure that would give him another 300 hits or so.

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427 minor league hits. Ichiro can play 3 more years and reach that and then we can have this discussion again.

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Could have just ended the thread here. Even discussing the Japanese hits is just dumb internet/sports talk fodder.

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Japanese baseball is AA at best.

Yes there are a few good pitchers... Nomo, Kuroda, Darvish and some relivers Shingo and Koji Uehara. But come on look at what guys like Tuffy Rhodes and Matt Murton did once they got to Japan.

Rose is the hit king .

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Julio Franco is 58 and still playing in Japan.

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Ichiro has better numbers in America.

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You can mention it in the context of "gee I wonder", but to equate the two is patently false and completely nonsensical.

There is no other logical, not to mention objective, side to this.

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- Henry George

That's what I did. Everyone else appears to be saying NO WAY.

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