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To say Green would dominate the matchup is not looking at things objectively.

I never said he would. I said if he played like he did in Game 7 he would. I agree with Nas that it is unlikely he would be THAT good, but he's definitely good enough to play Rodman to a draw in a series.


False.

Yeah, but you're the same guy who was saying earlier this year that Draymond is a role player, so I understand why you think that. But he's one of the best players in the NBA.


?? I don't think I said that. Are you confusing me with someone?

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To say Green would dominate the matchup is not looking at things objectively.

I never said he would. I said if he played like he did in Game 7 he would. I agree with Nas that it is unlikely he would be THAT good, but he's definitely good enough to play Rodman to a draw in a series.

Fair enough.

I don't think Rodman would allow him to play well enough for it to be a draw. Rodman had the ability to make people play his game.

I suspect Draymond is entirely cool with playing Rodman's game. It's his game too.

But he is not as good at it as Rodman. Scoring is the only thing Green does better than Rodman.

Pretty sure Green is a way better passer and ball handler also. Not sure Rodman can lead fast breaks and transition opportunities like Green can, or even close. Green is versatile enough to impact the game in several ways. My guess is he would still get his 14-9-7 or whatever and play tremendous defense for the series.

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To say Green would dominate the matchup is not looking at things objectively.

I never said he would. I said if he played like he did in Game 7 he would. I agree with Nas that it is unlikely he would be THAT good, but he's definitely good enough to play Rodman to a draw in a series.


False.

Yeah, but you're the same guy who was saying earlier this year that Draymond is a role player, so I understand why you think that. But he's one of the best players in the NBA.


?? I don't think I said that. Are you confusing me with someone?

I'm fairly positive you, DB, and I have discussed him while drinking and you and DB both said he's basically a role player in a perfect situation.

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Rodman was a far superior defender and rebounder. Draymond won't be asked to score much next year.

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To say Green would dominate the matchup is not looking at things objectively.

I never said he would. I said if he played like he did in Game 7 he would. I agree with Nas that it is unlikely he would be THAT good, but he's definitely good enough to play Rodman to a draw in a series.

Fair enough.

I don't think Rodman would allow him to play well enough for it to be a draw. Rodman had the ability to make people play his game.

I suspect Draymond is entirely cool with playing Rodman's game. It's his game too.

But he is not as good at it as Rodman. Scoring is the only thing Green does better than Rodman.

Pretty sure Green is a way better passer and ball handler also. Not sure Rodman can lead fast breaks and transition opportunities like Green can, or even close. Green is versatile enough to impact the game in several ways. My guess is he would still get his 14-9-7 or whatever and play tremendous defense for the series.


Rodman was an underrated passer. He could have done more of that if he had been asked. He was an unselfish player. Rodman was versatile enough to impact the game in several ways as well, but was never asked to.

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Rodman was a far superior defender and rebounder. Draymond won't be asked to score much next year.

I don't know about FAR SUPERIOR on defense. I mean, I guess. Draymond is one of the best in the NBA right now and probably getting better, and Rodman is one of the best defenders of all time. Draymond is going to hold is own defensively against anyone.

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Rodman was an underrated passer. He could have done more of that if he had been asked. He was an unselfish player. Rodman was versatile enough to impact the game in several ways as well, but was never asked to.

So... you think Rodman was just as good at passing and dribbling up court/leading a fast break as Green is? C'mon.

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Rodman was an underrated passer. He could have done more of that if he had been asked. He was an unselfish player. Rodman was versatile enough to impact the game in several ways as well, but was never asked to.

So... you think Rodman was just as good at passing and dribbling up court/leading a fast break as Green is? C'mon.

No...but I don't think Green is that far ahead of Rodman in those things either. We just never got to see Rodman in that role. I mean come on Joakim could run the break and pass too... you don't think Rodman was able to do it at a fairly high level if needed?

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Rodman could score in college but he got with the Pistons and realized that he would be more effective playing a different roles. He was one of the most versatile defenders in NBA history.

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Rodman was an underrated passer. He could have done more of that if he had been asked. He was an unselfish player. Rodman was versatile enough to impact the game in several ways as well, but was never asked to.

So... you think Rodman was just as good at passing and dribbling up court/leading a fast break as Green is? C'mon.

No...but I don't think Green is that far ahead of Rodman in those things either. We just never got to see Rodman in that role. I mean come on Joakim could run the break and pass too... you don't think Rodman was able to do it at a fairly high level if needed?

I don't think he's close to Green's level when it comes to those things, no. I don't Joakim is either, and I agree he's very good at it for a big man.

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Inspirational...

Good example of the things Rodman was capable of.

Not at Green's level, but not that far behind either.

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Man that Magic team was loaded with talent.

They might have been better than the Warriors :wink:

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Draymond Green is being overrated and I'm a fan. He was a non factor against OKC and aside from Game 7 didn't have much impact agsibst Cleveland. Game 7 was the result of LeBron James gambling on defense and leaving him open. Yes he did have to hit the shots and so deserves credit for that.

He isn't a top 20 player either. He excels at his role, but that doesn't make him an elite player.

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If you're going with today's rules then Jordan might average close to 50 for the series.

Just think of how many free throw attempts he would get.


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Draymond Green is being overrated and I'm a fan. He was a non factor against OKC and aside from Game 7 didn't have much impact agsibst Cleveland. Game 7 was the result of LeBron James gambling on defense and leaving him open. Yes he did have to hit the shots and so deserves credit for that.

He isn't a top 20 player either. He excels at his role, but that doesn't make him an elite player.

Did you watch game 7? He didn't just hit shots. Also had 15 boards, 9 assists, some steals, and shut Thompson down inside the paint. I don't know what you are a fan of with Green, considering everything in your post. :lol:

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Draymond Green is being overrated and I'm a fan. He was a non factor against OKC and aside from Game 7 didn't have much impact agsibst Cleveland. Game 7 was the result of LeBron James gambling on defense and leaving him open. Yes he did have to hit the shots and so deserves credit for that.

He isn't a top 20 player either. He excels at his role, but that doesn't make him an elite player.

Did you watch game 7? He didn't just hit shots. Also had 15 boards, 9 assists, some steals, and shut Thompson down inside the paint. I don't know what you are a fan of with Green, considering everything in your post. :lol:


He had many games during the last 2 series which strongly suggested that he was nothing more than a role player. Would you care to cite those instances or merely cherry pick his great game 7?

The thing about Rodman that was so amazing was that you always knew that you were going to get the 2 things that he was very good at. There was never any falloff. He impacted games more than Green ever has.

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If you're going with today's rules then Jordan might average close to 50 for the series.

Just think of how many free throw attempts he would get.


Jordan wasn't the same player in 1996. I would agree if we were talking about 1991 Jordan.

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Draymond Green is an all star. He's not better than Rodman but he clearly isn't a role player. He's also the heart and soul of that team.

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Draymond Green is being overrated and I'm a fan. He was a non factor against OKC and aside from Game 7 didn't have much impact agsibst Cleveland. Game 7 was the result of LeBron James gambling on defense and leaving him open. Yes he did have to hit the shots and so deserves credit for that.

He isn't a top 20 player either. He excels at his role, but that doesn't make him an elite player.

Did you watch game 7? He didn't just hit shots. Also had 15 boards, 9 assists, some steals, and shut Thompson down inside the paint. I don't know what you are a fan of with Green, considering everything in your post. :lol:


He had many games during the last 2 series which strongly suggested that he was nothing more than a role player. Would you care to cite those instances or merely cherry pick his great game 7?

Games 1 and 2 of the Finals he was also one of the best players on the floor. So half of all the Finals game he played in this year he played at an All Star or better level. He didn't have a terrible series. He did struggle against OKC.

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