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JORR

Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame Starting Pitchers

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:23 am

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rogers park bryan wrote:

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We're definitely going to have to identify the poor souls who were truly great pitchers but couldn't pitch over their poor run support

Like Nolan Ryan

I would argue that Nolan Ryan had great abilities, but he was somewhat less than a great pitcher. He's a freakish guy.

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:34 am

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He was a less than great fighter, too. Its not often a guy has someone in a headlock and ends up losing.

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Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame Starting Pitchers

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:43 am

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rogers park bryan wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

We're definitely going to have to identify the poor souls who were truly great pitchers but couldn't pitch over their poor run support

Like Nolan Ryan

Is Nolan Ryan a HoFer without the strikeouts?

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:06 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Schilling Bumgarner and Morris are hall of famers

Bumgarner isn't there yet. Morris has had his chances and SABRmetrics aren't helping him. Schilling is a maybe. I wouldn't put any of them or Johan Santana in before Doc Gooden.

Gooden is in mine for sure. I think they reward longevity too much and don't appreciate shorter term dominance.

Bumgarner Schilling and Morris are in for the post season stuff.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame Starting Pitchers

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:07 pm

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My Ryan comment was just giving Rogue shit. I'm biased on Ryan cause I hate him.

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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:15 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

He was a less than great fighter, too. Its not often a guy has someone in a headlock and ends up losing.

Robin Ventura lights up a room. Then, he lights up Nolan Ryan.

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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:43 am

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Chus wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

He was a less than great fighter, too. Its not often a guy has someone in a headlock and ends up losing.

Robin Ventura lights up a room. Then, he lights up Nolan Ryan.

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