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‘The Making of Donald Trump’ reveals how billionaire’s attempt to woo mobster’s daughter ended when he told him he’d ‘pull your balls from your legs’

Donald Trump was once threatened with castration after courting the wrong woman — the daughter of a reputed New Jersey mobster, according to a new book.

Trump, while still married to his first wife Ivana, shamelessly tried to seduce the 30-something daughter of Robert Libutti, a high-rolling horse dealer with ties to infamous Gambino boss John Gotti, the book alleges.

When Libutti got wind that Trump was trying to bed his daughter, the Garden State gambler confronted the real estate mogul and issued the most frightening of threats.

“Donald, I’ll f-----g pull your balls from your legs,” Libutti told him, according to the new book by journalist David Cay Johnston, “The Making of Donald Trump.”

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If you are still convinced that these nations are our allies, then tell me what influence a good Muslim can have.

They can save American soldiers lives. I served with more than one of those soldiers at Ft Polk.


I was asking on a national and political level.

I have no doubt there are thousands of Muslims that are people of goodwill.

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many people in other nations are stunned he even has a chance


Should that really be a consideration though?

You just praised Trump for recognizing Islam is a problem. If we are only concerned with America and the American people, then you shouldn't give a shit about the Islam angle. Islamic terrorism isn't even in the top 100 things that affect Americans. I'm not sure it cracks the top 1000. It's a bunch of fear mongering bullshit made easy by the Information Age.


I disagree that I "praised" him. I just pointed out that he recognizes a real problem rather than sticking his head in the sand like an ostrich. The problem with Islam and the drive by hundreds of millions of people to establish a worldwide caliphate is a much bigger issue than you're making it out to be.

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You'd be surprised by the number of people who think it is "God's Plan" to elevate Trump to the Presidency.



I don't believe that's true. Trump is obviously not the preferred candidate of evangelicals. He took on Pence to placate those people.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/m ... ve-america
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"Michele Bachmann expressed hope on Saturday that God has “lifted up” Donald Trump to defeat Hillary Clinton and save the country from Marxism and radical Islamism."


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/d ... y-election
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The listener asked Barton if there is anything that delegates can do to stop the nomination of Trump, to which Barton replied that Christians should simply accept that Trump is "God's guy" in this election.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/w ... ve-america
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The far-right outlet WorldNetDaily published a column today by author Jerry Kaifetz titled “God has a History of Using Men Like Trump,” in which Kaifetz argues that God may be using Donald Trump to save America from total collapse just as he used King Ahasuerus to stop a plot by Haman to exterminate the Jews.


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Frank Amedia, a pastor who says he is serving in a volunteer capacity as Donald Trump’s “Christian policy” liaison, said last month that God told him last year that Trump would win the GOP nomination and that he believes Trump has been “raised up” to help pave the way for the Second Coming.


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I was fascinated to talk to Lance Wallnau, a respected Charismatic minister, who believes that God is raising up Donald Trump in the same way the he raised up Cyrus in Isaiah 45:4-5.


:lol: :lol: That's some funny stuff. But I don't think that was the consensus opinion among evangelicals until Trump became the only option to stop a Clinton presidency.

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many people in other nations are stunned he even has a chance


Should that really be a consideration though?

You just praised Trump for recognizing Islam is a problem. If we are only concerned with America and the American people, then you shouldn't give a shit about the Islam angle. Islamic terrorism isn't even in the top 100 things that affect Americans. I'm not sure it cracks the top 1000. It's a bunch of fear mongering bullshit made easy by the Information Age.


I disagree that I "praised" him. I just pointed out that he recognizes a real problem rather than sticking his head in the sand like an ostrich. The problem with Islam and the drive by hundreds of millions of people to establish a worldwide caliphate is a much bigger issue than you're making it out to be.

It's not though. It barely affects any of us. There are countless issues that are way more important that affect us a great deal more than radical Islam does. It's living in Trump's fantasyland and playing into his hands to pretend otherwise.

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Sir Loin Of Beef wrote:
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You'd be surprised by the number of people who think it is "God's Plan" to elevate Trump to the Presidency.



I don't believe that's true. Trump is obviously not the preferred candidate of evangelicals. He took on Pence to placate those people.


http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/ ... president/
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To date, Donald Trump has defied all odds. He is the only candidate in the moderate era, with a chance at becoming President, who is still his own person. He owns himself and from a Christian perspective, that is problematic. However, this is clearly God’s plan.


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Beck, understandably, couldn't quite believe what he was hearing, which prompted Lapin to explain that he simply refuses to accept that God has given up on this nation and since Clinton is "sheer evil," the only alternative is to believe that God has raised up someone as ruthless as Trump as the final hope for redeeming America.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/k ... on-america
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On his radio broadcast yesterday, radical right-wing pastor Kevin Swanson said that the prospect of electing Donald Trump as president is part of God's plan to prepare America for complete destruction.


http://godfruits.tv/christian-minister- ... outhpiece/
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:lol: :lol: That's some funny stuff. But I don't think that was the consensus opinion among evangelicals until Trump became the only option to stop a Clinton presidency.


No, but there are people out there who do believe he was sent by God to save America.

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If you are still convinced that these nations are our allies, then tell me what influence a good Muslim can have.

They can save American soldiers lives. I served with more than one of those soldiers at Ft Polk.


I was asking on a national and political level.

I have no doubt there are thousands of Muslims that are people of goodwill.


Has the US Gov't said they aren't our allies???

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FavreFan wrote:
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many people in other nations are stunned he even has a chance


Should that really be a consideration though?

You just praised Trump for recognizing Islam is a problem. If we are only concerned with America and the American people, then you shouldn't give a shit about the Islam angle. Islamic terrorism isn't even in the top 100 things that affect Americans. I'm not sure it cracks the top 1000. It's a bunch of fear mongering bullshit made easy by the Information Age.


I disagree that I "praised" him. I just pointed out that he recognizes a real problem rather than sticking his head in the sand like an ostrich. The problem with Islam and the drive by hundreds of millions of people to establish a worldwide caliphate is a much bigger issue than you're making it out to be.

It's not though. It barely affects any of us. There are countless issues that are way more important that affect us a great deal more than radical Islam does. It's living in Trump's fantasyland and playing into his hands to pretend otherwise.


It does though. It may cause the unraveling of the EU.

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No it isn't. They found a guy willing to use his son's death in the service of their candidate. I don't find that admirable.

Ok so what are your thoughts on the Bengahzi mom blaming HRC personally for her son's death?


Hillary was actually that guy's boss. Did Hillary have anything to do with making policy that caused or created the situation in Benghazi? Did she then lie about what occurred there? I think that's a little more germane than a parent simply saying, "My son died in action and I hate Donald Trump." And I think the fact that you are drawing equivalence between the two situations shows a definite bias.

There is no bais at all. I don't like HRC. The bias is in that you are pissed at this guy for pointing out Trump is a bigot, but are seeming fine with BENGHAZI!!!! still being a thing.


I just think his anger is misdirected. Look, wouldn't Mr. Khan be better served to take out his anger on his fellow Muslims who are blowing people up? I don't think Trump has the answer but at least he's acknowledging there is a problem.


You have taking quite a beating here for these stances but no one so far has been able to refute them.


Mr Khan and his son are examples of how wrong you all are.

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Mr Khan and his son are examples of how wrong you all are.


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No it isn't. They found a guy willing to use his son's death in the service of their candidate. I don't find that admirable.

Ok so what are your thoughts on the Bengahzi mom blaming HRC personally for her son's death?


Hillary was actually that guy's boss. Did Hillary have anything to do with making policy that caused or created the situation in Benghazi? Did she then lie about what occurred there? I think that's a little more germane than a parent simply saying, "My son died in action and I hate Donald Trump." And I think the fact that you are drawing equivalence between the two situations shows a definite bias.

There is no bais at all. I don't like HRC. The bias is in that you are pissed at this guy for pointing out Trump is a bigot, but are seeming fine with BENGHAZI!!!! still being a thing.


I just think his anger is misdirected. Look, wouldn't Mr. Khan be better served to take out his anger on his fellow Muslims who are blowing people up? I don't think Trump has the answer but at least he's acknowledging there is a problem.


You have taking quite a beating here for these stances but no one so far has been able to refute them.

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Mr Khan and his son are examples of how wrong you all are.


Until you can find where Mr. Khan repudiated the very people who killed his son, this is going to be a tough sell to those who can use common sense.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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many people in other nations are stunned he even has a chance


Should that really be a consideration though?

You just praised Trump for recognizing Islam is a problem. If we are only concerned with America and the American people, then you shouldn't give a shit about the Islam angle. Islamic terrorism isn't even in the top 100 things that affect Americans. I'm not sure it cracks the top 1000. It's a bunch of fear mongering bullshit made easy by the Information Age.


I disagree that I "praised" him. I just pointed out that he recognizes a real problem rather than sticking his head in the sand like an ostrich. The problem with Islam and the drive by hundreds of millions of people to establish a worldwide caliphate is a much bigger issue than you're making it out to be.

It's not though. It barely affects any of us. There are countless issues that are way more important that affect us a great deal more than radical Islam does. It's living in Trump's fantasyland and playing into his hands to pretend otherwise.


It does though. It may cause the unraveling of the EU.


FWIW, I agree on some levels that it is a "problem." I also think we beat around the bush too much regarding the influence Islam has. But my question is this: what do you think Trump is going to do about it? We aren't banning them, and we aren't putting them on a list. I mean, I'm sure he'll say some crazy ass shit to inflame even those who are with us against terrorism, but what the hell does that accomplish? To imply that Trump will somehow be "better" against terrorism because he's an obnoxious blowhard isn't logical.

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FWIW, I agree on some levels that it is a "problem." I also think we beat around the bush too much regarding the influence Islam has. But my question is this: what do you think Trump is going to do about it? We aren't banning them, and we aren't putting them on a list. I mean, I'm sure he'll say some crazy ass shit to inflame even those who are with us against terrorism, but what the hell does that accomplish? To imply that Trump will somehow be "better" against terrorism because he's an obnoxious blowhard isn't logical.


I specifically said I don't think he has the answers. I'm not sure anyone does.

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FWIW, I agree on some levels that it is a "problem." I also think we beat around the bush too much regarding the influence Islam has. But my question is this: what do you think Trump is going to do about it? We aren't banning them, and we aren't putting them on a list. I mean, I'm sure he'll say some crazy ass shit to inflame even those who are with us against terrorism, but what the hell does that accomplish? To imply that Trump will somehow be "better" against terrorism because he's an obnoxious blowhard isn't logical.


I specifically said I don't think he has the answers. I'm not sure anyone does.


I'm positive that no politician has the answers.

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No it isn't. They found a guy willing to use his son's death in the service of their candidate. I don't find that admirable.

Ok so what are your thoughts on the Bengahzi mom blaming HRC personally for her son's death?


Hillary was actually that guy's boss. Did Hillary have anything to do with making policy that caused or created the situation in Benghazi? Did she then lie about what occurred there? I think that's a little more germane than a parent simply saying, "My son died in action and I hate Donald Trump." And I think the fact that you are drawing equivalence between the two situations shows a definite bias.

There is no bais at all. I don't like HRC. The bias is in that you are pissed at this guy for pointing out Trump is a bigot, but are seeming fine with BENGHAZI!!!! still being a thing.


I just think his anger is misdirected. Look, wouldn't Mr. Khan be better served to take out his anger on his fellow Muslims who are blowing people up? I don't think Trump has the answer but at least he's acknowledging there is a problem.


You have taking quite a beating here for these stances but no one so far has been able to refute them.

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Mr Khan and his son are examples of how wrong you all are.


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Until you can find where Mr. Khan repudiated the very people who killed his son, this is going to be a tough sell to those who can use common sense.


What? Muslim Americans do this every day. His son literally made the ultimate sacrifice for our values and you're still questioning him/them. Unbelievable

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You'd be surprised by the number of people who think it is "God's Plan" to elevate Trump to the Presidency.



I don't believe that's true. Trump is obviously not the preferred candidate of evangelicals. He took on Pence to placate those people.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/m ... ve-america
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"Michele Bachmann expressed hope on Saturday that God has “lifted up” Donald Trump to defeat Hillary Clinton and save the country from Marxism and radical Islamism."


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/d ... y-election
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The listener asked Barton if there is anything that delegates can do to stop the nomination of Trump, to which Barton replied that Christians should simply accept that Trump is "God's guy" in this election.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/w ... ve-america
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The far-right outlet WorldNetDaily published a column today by author Jerry Kaifetz titled “God has a History of Using Men Like Trump,” in which Kaifetz argues that God may be using Donald Trump to save America from total collapse just as he used King Ahasuerus to stop a plot by Haman to exterminate the Jews.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/t ... ond-coming
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Frank Amedia, a pastor who says he is serving in a volunteer capacity as Donald Trump’s “Christian policy” liaison, said last month that God told him last year that Trump would win the GOP nomination and that he believes Trump has been “raised up” to help pave the way for the Second Coming.


http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/570 ... d-purposes
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I was fascinated to talk to Lance Wallnau, a respected Charismatic minister, who believes that God is raising up Donald Trump in the same way the he raised up Cyrus in Isaiah 45:4-5.


:lol: :lol: That's some funny stuff. But I don't think that was the consensus opinion among evangelicals until Trump became the only option to stop a Clinton presidency.


He started winning the evangelical vote not long after Iowa.

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No it isn't. They found a guy willing to use his son's death in the service of their candidate. I don't find that admirable.

Ok so what are your thoughts on the Bengahzi mom blaming HRC personally for her son's death?


Hillary was actually that guy's boss. Did Hillary have anything to do with making policy that caused or created the situation in Benghazi? Did she then lie about what occurred there? I think that's a little more germane than a parent simply saying, "My son died in action and I hate Donald Trump." And I think the fact that you are drawing equivalence between the two situations shows a definite bias.

There is no bais at all. I don't like HRC. The bias is in that you are pissed at this guy for pointing out Trump is a bigot, but are seeming fine with BENGHAZI!!!! still being a thing.


I just think his anger is misdirected. Look, wouldn't Mr. Khan be better served to take out his anger on his fellow Muslims who are blowing people up? I don't think Trump has the answer but at least he's acknowledging there is a problem.


You have taking quite a beating here for these stances but no one so far has been able to refute them.

Nas wrote:
Mr Khan and his son are examples of how wrong you all are.


Seacrest wrote:
Until you can find where Mr. Khan repudiated the very people who killed his son, this is going to be a tough sell to those who can use common sense.


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What? Muslim Americans do this every day. His son literally made the ultimate sacrifice for our values and you're still questioning him/them. Unbelievable


I never questioned his son's sacrifice. And that's the same red herring they are throwing at Trump.

He repudiated Trump. Is there any evidence that he ever repudiated those that killed his son?

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No it isn't. They found a guy willing to use his son's death in the service of their candidate. I don't find that admirable.

Ok so what are your thoughts on the Bengahzi mom blaming HRC personally for her son's death?


Hillary was actually that guy's boss. Did Hillary have anything to do with making policy that caused or created the situation in Benghazi? Did she then lie about what occurred there? I think that's a little more germane than a parent simply saying, "My son died in action and I hate Donald Trump." And I think the fact that you are drawing equivalence between the two situations shows a definite bias.

There is no bais at all. I don't like HRC. The bias is in that you are pissed at this guy for pointing out Trump is a bigot, but are seeming fine with BENGHAZI!!!! still being a thing.


I just think his anger is misdirected. Look, wouldn't Mr. Khan be better served to take out his anger on his fellow Muslims who are blowing people up? I don't think Trump has the answer but at least he's acknowledging there is a problem.


You have taking quite a beating here for these stances but no one so far has been able to refute them.

Nas wrote:
Mr Khan and his son are examples of how wrong you all are.


Seacrest wrote:
Until you can find where Mr. Khan repudiated the very people who killed his son, this is going to be a tough sell to those who can use common sense.


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What? Muslim Americans do this every day. His son literally made the ultimate sacrifice for our values and you're still questioning him/them. Unbelievable


I never questioned his son's sacrifice. And that's the same red herring they are throwing at Trump.

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He repudiated Trump. Is there any evidence that he ever repudiated those that killed his son?


I'm going to climb out on a limb and say that like all fathers who have lost a child in war that he repudiated his killers. The great lengths you're going to defend Trump are really amazing.

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A father whose son died in war is supposed to repudiate the people who killed him?

Yes, Millenials are the non-critical thinkers.

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Another red herring, Seriously? Like JORR said in his original post, his anger seems to be misplaced.

You can go out on whatever limb you choose. But when you make the decision to be used as a public pawn by a political party, then you should know there should be questions to follow.

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Republicans everywhere racing to tell Trump he fucked up...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-declare-support-for-khans-in-scuffle-with-trump/ar-BBv6OVw?ocid=spartanntp

But, as the article says, none of them publicly pulling support for Trump.
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:lol: :lol:

A father whose son died in war is supposed to repudiate the people who killed him?

Yes, Millenials are the non-critical thinkers.


Emoticon aside...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2604021

Just aren't allowed to discuss those who are violent against soldiers.

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Holy cow. Seacrest accusing someone else of using a red herring.

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Seacrest wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
:lol: :lol:

A father whose son died in war is supposed to repudiate the people who killed him?

Yes, Millenials are the non-critical thinkers.


Emoticon aside...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2604021

Just aren't allowed to discuss those who are violent against soldiers.


I have no idea what you're trying to say.

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Another red herring, Seriously? Like JORR said in his original post, his anger seems to be misplaced.

You can go out on whatever limb you choose. But when you make the decision to be used as a public pawn by a political party, then you should know there should be questions to follow.


His anger isn't misplaced. He's focusing on Trump because Trump wants to ban all Muslims. Somehow because of their faith they don't have the ability to love America. He's tell him and all the other Islamophobes that there aren't MANY other ways to prove you love your country than giving your life for it. That's a sacrifice that Trump and MANY other people (like you and I) have been unwilling to make.

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Nas wrote:
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Another red herring, Seriously? Like JORR said in his original post, his anger seems to be misplaced.

You can go out on whatever limb you choose. But when you make the decision to be used as a public pawn by a political party, then you should know there should be questions to follow.


His anger isn't misplaced. He's focusing on Trump because Trump wants to ban all Muslims. Somehow because of their faith they don't have the ability to love America. He's tell him and all the other Islamophobes that there aren't MANY other ways to prove you love your country than giving your life for it. That's a sacrifice that Trump and MANY other people (like you and I) have been unwilling to make.


Let's start here.

Where did Trump say Muslims don't love America?

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Nas wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Another red herring, Seriously? Like JORR said in his original post, his anger seems to be misplaced.

You can go out on whatever limb you choose. But when you make the decision to be used as a public pawn by a political party, then you should know there should be questions to follow.


His anger isn't misplaced. He's focusing on Trump because Trump wants to ban all Muslims. Somehow because of their faith they don't have the ability to love America. He's tell him and all the other Islamophobes that there aren't MANY other ways to prove you love your country than giving your life for it. That's a sacrifice that Trump and MANY other people (like you and I) have been unwilling to make.


That's a mischaracterization as well.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Another red herring, Seriously? Like JORR said in his original post, his anger seems to be misplaced.

You can go out on whatever limb you choose. But when you make the decision to be used as a public pawn by a political party, then you should know there should be questions to follow.


His anger isn't misplaced. He's focusing on Trump because Trump wants to ban all Muslims. Somehow because of their faith they don't have the ability to love America. He's tell him and all the other Islamophobes that there aren't MANY other ways to prove you love your country than giving your life for it. That's a sacrifice that Trump and MANY other people (like you and I) have been unwilling to make.


That's a mischaracterization as well.


Thanks, I missed that.

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You'd be surprised by the number of people who think it is "God's Plan" to elevate Trump to the Presidency.



I don't believe that's true. Trump is obviously not the preferred candidate of evangelicals. He took on Pence to placate those people.


http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/ ... president/
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To date, Donald Trump has defied all odds. He is the only candidate in the moderate era, with a chance at becoming President, who is still his own person. He owns himself and from a Christian perspective, that is problematic. However, this is clearly God’s plan.


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Beck, understandably, couldn't quite believe what he was hearing, which prompted Lapin to explain that he simply refuses to accept that God has given up on this nation and since Clinton is "sheer evil," the only alternative is to believe that God has raised up someone as ruthless as Trump as the final hope for redeeming America.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/k ... on-america
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On his radio broadcast yesterday, radical right-wing pastor Kevin Swanson said that the prospect of electing Donald Trump as president is part of God's plan to prepare America for complete destruction.


http://godfruits.tv/christian-minister- ... outhpiece/
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Jeremiah Johnson from Lakeland, Florida, and a minister for Behold The Man Ministries says that he was approached by God and given this important message.
“Trump shall become My trumpet to the American people, for he possesses qualities that are even hard to find in My people these days.

A lot of these quotes are from crazy people, and I'm naturally skeptical, but I'm willing to hear the underlined guy out. :lol:

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