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I'd say broad brushish but I'm thinking that'd just piss off Julie.

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There is no greater clash of hypocrisy than when feminists must confront the anti-feminist ideas of Islam.


Have you listened to Trump supporters? :lol:


Yes, I am one. Sorry to see you're brainwashed by the MSM.

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Well, let's be honest here, it can certainly be interpreted that way. I work with a lot of muslims and even though none of them have tried to kill me yet, they do have some pretty strong anti-American sentiments. It worries me, but I just do my best to hope that people can work through the stereotypes. Its the radical conservatives that only fan these flames. I'm not blaming radical conservatives for Islamic law, but they certainly don't help.



What do you mean by "radical conservatives" and what effect do they have on beliefs set down in print about 1400 years ago?


The current Trump rhetoric is resulting in Islamaphobia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-islamophobia_us_57687474e4b015db1bca5fb4

Again, I'm not saying this is direct, its just fanning flames of radicalization.

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what atrocities are we speaking of? CLH noted that these anti-American Muslims have yet to carry out their plan to take him out. Perhaps they doubt the legitimacy of Hoffy's claim to be an American. Once they secure a copy of his long-form birth certificate showing CLH is was born in the USA, Hoffy's days are numbered.

Tim McVeigh = shorthand for the radical right in America's tendency to speak and at times act as anti-USA as anyone on the planet.


Hang on, I'm as American as they come. When my Italian grandparents came to this country, they branded themselves with American last names! And then when they were persecuted endlessly, they hid their Italian culture and gave up the language to speak 'Mericuhn. So there.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Well, let's be honest here, it can certainly be interpreted that way. I work with a lot of muslims and even though none of them have tried to kill me yet, they do have some pretty strong anti-American sentiments. It worries me, but I just do my best to hope that people can work through the stereotypes. Its the radical conservatives that only fan these flames. I'm not blaming radical conservatives for Islamic law, but they certainly don't help.



What do you mean by "radical conservatives" and what effect do they have on beliefs set down in print about 1400 years ago?


The current Trump rhetoric is resulting in Islamaphobia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-islamophobia_us_57687474e4b015db1bca5fb4

Again, I'm not saying this is direct, its just fanning flames of radicalization.


There's no such thing as "Islamophobia". Fear of Islam is well-founded. In fact, you'd have to be somewhat crazy not to be concerned about it.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Well, let's be honest here, it can certainly be interpreted that way. I work with a lot of muslims and even though none of them have tried to kill me yet, they do have some pretty strong anti-American sentiments. It worries me, but I just do my best to hope that people can work through the stereotypes. Its the radical conservatives that only fan these flames. I'm not blaming radical conservatives for Islamic law, but they certainly don't help.



What do you mean by "radical conservatives" and what effect do they have on beliefs set down in print about 1400 years ago?


The current Trump rhetoric is resulting in Islamaphobia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-islamophobia_us_57687474e4b015db1bca5fb4

Again, I'm not saying this is direct, its just fanning flames of radicalization.


There's no such thing as "Islamophobia". Fear of Islam is well-founded. In fact, you'd have to be somewhat crazy not to be concerned about it.

:lol:

I disagree.

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I also disagree.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Well, let's be honest here, it can certainly be interpreted that way. I work with a lot of muslims and even though none of them have tried to kill me yet, they do have some pretty strong anti-American sentiments. It worries me, but I just do my best to hope that people can work through the stereotypes. Its the radical conservatives that only fan these flames. I'm not blaming radical conservatives for Islamic law, but they certainly don't help.



What do you mean by "radical conservatives" and what effect do they have on beliefs set down in print about 1400 years ago?


The current Trump rhetoric is resulting in Islamaphobia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-islamophobia_us_57687474e4b015db1bca5fb4

Again, I'm not saying this is direct, its just fanning flames of radicalization.


There's no such thing as "Islamophobia". Fear of Islam is well-founded. In fact, you'd have to be somewhat crazy not to be concerned about it.

:lol:

I disagree.


+1

I'm more concerned about having a wet dream than I am about Sharia Law.

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You can disagree all you want. And keep posting propaganda from terrorist organizations like CAIR.

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Oh brother.

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You can disagree all you want. And keep posting propaganda from terrorist organizations like CAIR.


I'm more worried about Stevie Wonder seeing me fucking his wife than I am about Sharia Law in America.

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Nas wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Well, let's be honest here, it can certainly be interpreted that way. I work with a lot of muslims and even though none of them have tried to kill me yet, they do have some pretty strong anti-American sentiments. It worries me, but I just do my best to hope that people can work through the stereotypes. Its the radical conservatives that only fan these flames. I'm not blaming radical conservatives for Islamic law, but they certainly don't help.



What do you mean by "radical conservatives" and what effect do they have on beliefs set down in print about 1400 years ago?


The current Trump rhetoric is resulting in Islamaphobia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-islamophobia_us_57687474e4b015db1bca5fb4

Again, I'm not saying this is direct, its just fanning flames of radicalization.


There's no such thing as "Islamophobia". Fear of Islam is well-founded. In fact, you'd have to be somewhat crazy not to be concerned about it.

:lol:

I disagree.


+1

I'm more concerned about having a wet dream than I am about Sharia Law.


I think wet dreams are against Sharia Law. Sorry man but if you have one, we have to stone you at the cigar event on Friday.

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I think Stevie Wonder would give anything to see someone fucking his wife.

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I still like JORR despite his extremism.

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I'm not the one supporting a terrible set of ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPBSZbt9uwU

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Holy fuck you're going to talk about propaganda and then link Rebel media?

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I'm not the one supporting a terrible set of ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPBSZbt9uwU


No one is supporting "terrible ideas" and you know that. We're just not afraid of something that is as likely to happen as Santa Claus bringing me gifts this December.

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Holy fuck you're going to talk about propaganda and then link Rebel media?



Do you think that was an unreasonable discussion? I'm sorry you support Hamas.

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No more or less reasonable than anything coming from American-Islamic Relations, I can assure you.

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I'm not the one supporting a terrible set of ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPBSZbt9uwU


No one is supporting "terrible ideas" and you know that.


What are you defending then? Great ideas? Are you saying Islam is terrible, you're just not concerned because it likely won't be popular in the U.S. in your lifetime? If so, I can accept that. But it seems you're going much further in defense of abhorrent philosophies.

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No more or less reasonable than anything coming from American-Islamic Relations, I can assure you.


You don't know what you're talking about. CAIR is a terrorist organization, a front for the Muslim Brotherhood, and has been declared such by the United Arab Emirates. I really don't think that professor from Toronto is a terrorist. For you to equate them is downright evil.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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I'm not the one supporting a terrible set of ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPBSZbt9uwU


No one is supporting "terrible ideas" and you know that.


What are you defending then? Great ideas? Are you saying Islam is terrible, you're just not concerned because it likely won't be popular in the U.S. in your lifetime? If so, I can accept that. But it seems you're going much further in defense of abhorrent philosophies.


I'm not defending a philosophy. I don't care what you think about any religion. I've been clear about my issues with your views on Muslim people.

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and has been declared such by the United Arab Emirates.

The UAE practices Sharia Law.

So sometimes you're okay with the opinions of Sharia Law Muslims? When it works for you, naturally...

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This thread took a wonderful turn.

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The crazy Righties all seem to sound alike. "Libtards, Democrooks, Politically Correct, George Soros, etc etc." Every Conservative talk show is the same as all the others.


Global warming is a myth, Obama is a Muslim, Hillary is a murderer, etc.

I do have to say, Chus, the amount of people who died during the whitewater scandal, and dead people associated with Bill's wandering ding-a-ling is very sketchy. That kind of corruption is hard to deny, and you know I'm more progressive than most here.

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Nas, did you delete his whole thread? Probably a good idea.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I'm not the one supporting a terrible set of ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPBSZbt9uwU


No one is supporting "terrible ideas" and you know that.


What are you defending then? Great ideas? Are you saying Islam is terrible, you're just not concerned because it likely won't be popular in the U.S. in your lifetime? If so, I can accept that. But it seems you're going much further in defense of abhorrent philosophies.


I'm not defending a philosophy. I don't care what you think about any religion. I've been clear about my issues with your views on Muslim people.


I judge people by their ideas. I don't defend those who keep women in bags and drop gays off buildings or those who find such philosophies to be nothing more than a different and equal culture..

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I'm not the one supporting a terrible set of ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPBSZbt9uwU


No one is supporting "terrible ideas" and you know that.


What are you defending then? Great ideas? Are you saying Islam is terrible, you're just not concerned because it likely won't be popular in the U.S. in your lifetime? If so, I can accept that. But it seems you're going much further in defense of abhorrent philosophies.


I'm not defending a philosophy. I don't care what you think about any religion. I've been clear about my issues with your views on Muslim people.


I judge people by their ideas. I don't defend those who keep women in bags and drop gays off buildings or those who find such philosophies to be nothing more than a different and equal culture..


No one defends those people. I don't call you a thief because Chas stole some jerseys.

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No one defends those people. I don't call you a thief because Chas stole some jerseys.


How is that analogous? What do I have to do with Chas? Are we both followers of some religious doctrine that condones jersey theft?

Islam is a set of ideas. The definition of a Muslim is a person who subscribes to Islam.

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