I've seen enough. I don't care if he is a puppet or not.

the most recent offense is Shields being on this team. I didn't like acquiring him but I could see the logic of buying low and getting a guy for little with contract relief that made him much more attractive. They shined up that old car, they added granite countertops to that kitchen...whatever value added analogy you would like to make, they made that guy look like an MLB pitcher again before the break. Take your profit and run with that shit. Instead, he decides to be a greedy investor.

I'm done with him and everyone both below him and above him on the organizational chart. I don't have hope untouchables will be removed but this kind of general managing cannot continue.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I don't believe Shields is as easy to move as you think. They should have been able to get rid of Robertson though.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Hahn's not in charge; Kenny has said as much recently.

Fire Kenny, THEN fire Hahn, then have Jerry retire and stay out of White Sox business.

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Not a mult.

hahn will excuse this away as just following the owner's direction to win now. he's fine, just like kenny is fine. both reinsdorf owned teams are a disaster right now

The smart play for the Sox is to hold onto all of the players you have currently on the roster. I think the team is ready to go on a run....



Couldn't keep it up.

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I have trouble blaming Hahn because he is hamstrung by payroll limitations and by ownership mandates to try and win now.

We're seeing the same BS with the Bulls, which makes me think this is mainly a Chairman problem.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

They have pills for that.

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I will be firing footballs through tire swings in no time.

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Where have I heard this before.....

You cant say fire Hahn and be OK with keeping Kenny Williams around.

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That maybe the smartest thing you have said here Frank.

Dead on.

It matters not who is in Hahn's seat if Kenny is still around.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Quit on the White Sox and on baseball in general. You can come back in 5-10 years.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I'll just follow little league travel teams around the country

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Shields at sub $10 million per and pitching like his old self was movable for no less than the price they paid to get him.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

paragraph three is only two sentences

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Call this guy:

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Obviously not. They couldn't trade him to themselves.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I don't think they tried. I think they fooled themselves into believing he was rejuvenated under the great Don Cooper

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

No one wanted Shields. He was clearly on a Latos-like run.

If we could tell he was on a run of good luck then every team's nerds knew 3 weeks before us.

The guy I replied to luvs KW.

He also refuses to put *any* blame on Ventura.

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There was a market for him when he was on a bad run

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Rollins, Shields, and the LaRoche signing are all solid examples that Kenny still has say in personnel.

I don't know if Hahn is any good or not...probably not, but we'll never know with Kenny still there. I'm fine with firing both of them.

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I would try to keep Herm Schneider and Nick Hostetler if at all possible. Particularly the latter, I have a huge amount of confidence in Hostetler's drafting abilities.

Kenny won and was competitive and Hahn hasn't been. Excuse after excuse is made for him. Similar to the Bulls I would rather see his superior do the job.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

hahn doesn't take a piss without kenny holding his dick. GAY!

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

White Sox optioned RHP Carson Fulmer to Triple-A Charlotte

They send him down now?? Are they going to bring him back in 2 weeks when the rosters expand? Is he going to start or is he staying in the bullpen? Why was he even up in the first place? Do they have a fucking clue what they're doing?

They can only do so much man.

You are going to get a Guinness Book of World Record attempt for dogs.

What more do you want? Geeze

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Chill out, Keyser.

They are sending him down so he can stretch out as a starter to get 3 or 4 starts with the Sox in Sept.

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That sounds like a 100% rebuild. Good. The right decision will be made.

White Sox fans... the first year hurts the most. After that, you'll start seeing progress throughout the minor leagues... and you'll be excited in those improvement and developments. It will help bridge the 2-3 seasons it takes to become contenders.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.