I'm on your side of this argument, Rodney. Chill out.

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2013-15 is 3 seasons.

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It seems like he decided to step it up in the second half ... retroactively earning it.

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Quintana gave up 2 runs through 6 innings tonight. No Decision.

Right now he is on the hook for the L

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Still only 1 win when giving up more than 1 run. He has to pitch better. Seriously if there is 1 knock on him it's that he needs to go deeper in games. He's improved but he still needs to get better.

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Why does the other team's pitcher more times than not give up less runs than him?

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More times than not? It has only happened in about 25% of his career starts. #SoxOffenseSucks

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Guess I am confused. I turn on my tv, and he seems to be losing more times than not.

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You're probably tired.

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I don't know if that is true...but pitchers opposing the White Sox get to face a pretty bad offense in 100% of their starts against the White Sox. Quintana has to face a balance of good offenses and bad offenses while getting supported by a bad offense.

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Yeah, only five beers in, but I'll grab my sixth now. I am slightly disturbed by these female teenager gymnists that look like they're under ten and wear the make-up of mob wives.

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Because the White Sox, aside from 2012, have been an absolutely horrid offense.

Quintana's job is to limit runs by way of getting outs and limiting baserunners. He has been unquestionably good at that throughout his time with the Sox, and of late he's been great at it. It is not his fault that his collective batting lineup has been in the bottom-third of the league in run production over the last 4 years.

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Quintana has surrendered 2 or fewer runs in a start and not gotten a Win 39 times in his career, or 27% of his career starts. He has surrendered 3 or fewer runs and not gotten a Win 62 times, or 44% of his career.

Quintana has surrendered 2 or fewer runs 76 times, he is 37-11-28 (W-L-ND). Again, Quintana is more likely to lose or not get a decision if he gives up 2 or fewer runs in a start.

In the 46 games in which Q has given up 1 or fewer runs, he is 24-4-18. Barely more likely than not to get a Win.

Hard for the Sox to overcome Quintana giving up the first run, let alone the 2nd run too. Teams win 2/3 when they score first or something. L

For reference, Kershaw has given up 1 run or less 123 times. He is 79-25-19.

That looks right to me.

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So far this year, MLB starters have given up 1-run or less in starts a total of 976 times. They are 626-44-306. The league converts 64% of 1-run-or-less efforts into a Win for the pitcher. The Sox convert 52%. If you take out Quintana's results, the league conversion rate jumps to 65%.

Is anything more or less "competitive" about Quintana's 1-run efforts than the rest of the MLB's?

I was also wrong on Kershaw's career in 1-run-or less games, he's actually gone 88-2-33 in those 123 games, the Dodgers helping him convert almost 72% of 1-run starts into Wins.

Again though it begs the question that if its obvious Quintana isn't winning most of those starts, why keep him around? Trade him to a team that he will obviously enjoy much more success with where he will get all the run support he'll need to turn into Nick Kershaw.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Quintana often provides good pitching support. We can't really hold it against the White Sox offense. They can't control the whole game either.

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It's well above average. The League has 27% of its starts surrender 1 run or less, Quintana has done that for 32% of his starts for his career, 46% of his starts this season.

Better than average pitching support by Quintana!

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Or the Sox could put a competent offense on the field so they won't have to look for another Sale or Quintana.

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not really all that surprising that he was humiliated by a true ace , Corey Kluber

This excuse making is getting as bad as the excuse making for Carmelo.

I guess Carmelo doesn't get enough "basket support" too!

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Quintana doesn't hit enough dingers, you're right. What a useless piece of shit.

This is trolling or a really really bad comparison.

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Noted non-winning pitcher Jose Quintana has meekly given up the first run in 14 of his 24 starts. This lack of TWTW has caused him to go 4-7 in those games. When he cares enough to not put the Sox behind first with his lackluster pitching, he's 5-2.

Who would win more games? Hypothetical Jay Cutler, or Hypothetical Jose Quintana?

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