No asshole, you're the guy who views W-L record as the measure of being a competitor. That's what we are discussing here W-L record. I didn't invent shit, they are your words.



See, that's how you use the quote function fuckface.

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You've shown no ability to grasp where and how huge variables come into play... like the entire opposing offense.

No one is being a jerkoff. It is almost unfathomable that you aren't recognizing something so simple.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

A few things here Rick:

1. I don't hate anyone in life, man that would be a tough way to go about living, so if you harbor hatred, go to therapy.

2. I really enjoy JORR, I don't always agree with him, but I don't feel he's not genuine about his positions

3. Maybe if you spent a little more time working, and less time posting on this here board, you might be able to piss away $200 bucks for no good reason other than you don't care

4. Don't ever tell me how to spend my money

If I field a team of MLB All-Stars, and James Shields fields a rec-league team...and we play each other... I'm not a better pitcher than James Shields even though my team wins.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

You're acting like some guys face only the '27 Yankees while other guys face only the '10 Mariners. That just isn't the case. Not for any pitcher in history. There are variables built into every statistic.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Aww, you guys.

When that happens in the big leagues we can discuss it.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

No matter how much or how little I make I find it best not to do dumb things. I'm glad that you make enough money that you can do dumb things though. If doing dumb things makes you happy then I guess it was money well spent.

Listen man, if you want to be stupid with your money then I'm happy for you. I hope JORR enjoys the money he easily won off you.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

And you've chosen the gloss over the absolute largest variable in the smallest sample size possible. A single start.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Pssht... yeah... like I didn't already smoke that 500 bucks.


Losers!

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It's not really as large as you think. You want to bring up these fantasy scenarios like you facing off against James Shields, well, here's one, one game isn't enough space to differentiate you from Mike Trout as a batter. You might get lucky and turn around a 95 mph fastball like bernstein and go 1-4 while Trout takes a collar. It's a game of time and repetition. And it usually takes more than a single guy having a good day for an offense to put up numbers. And usually a bunch of guys don't all have a good day at the same time vs. the best pitchers.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

It also is likely that IMU would have better advanced statistics in that scenario too. That would say he is a better pitcher also.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Probably. There's no doubt IMU is a competitive bastard.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

There is a big difference between spending $250 and betting on something that had no realistic chance of ever happening.

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A couple things here fella:

1. Maybe if you spent a little more time working, and less time posting on this here board, you might be able to piss away $200 bucks for no good reason other than you don't care

2. Don't ever tell me how to spend my money. I know how I earned my money, why I worked to earn it, and what I want to do with it. I don't need your input.

I work too hard to make smart decisions!

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I think Quintana is an excellent pitcher and it frustrates me that his team doesn't win more when he pitches.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

A couple rebuttals here, Champ.

1) You pissed away $250, not $200. Referencing a post count is always a great retort as well. As it is, I am not the one adding pages upon pages to this thread regarding a silly thing like a pitcher's win total. Maybe if you were smart enough, you would know that Joe Orr has stated his opinion on this matter MANY times, and is not going to change it no matter what you or anyone else says. A smarter man might just walk away from this debate, but I guess that is beyond your means.

2) I did not tell you how to spend your money. Buy whatever you want, I don't care. I am saying you did not spend $250, you wasted it. See, when you "spend" money you usually get something in return. Maybe its a house, a car, some groceries, a case of beer, or a subscription to one of those websites that puts all of your little baseball numbers into a Bible for you.

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I don't think you understand what you are posting.

I don't need your opinion on how to spend my money, or whether it was wasted. You're not bright enough to understand that by saying I "wasted" my money you are in fact passing judgement on how I spend my money, or essentially trying to tell me how to spend my money.

You don't know what I do or do not get value out of. You do not know what I do or do not value in return for my money. And you certainly do not why or why I do what I do with my money.

You want to talk baseball, fine. You want to talk football, fine. You want to pass judgement on me and my personal decisions regarding my labor and capital investments and expenditures? You're either (a) in no place to judge or (b) think you are in a place to judge but are too dull to realize you aren't.

What the hell are you talking about? You wasted money on a bet you wouldn't ever win. You could throw $250 into a fire pit if you wanted and people could think you wasted it. It doesn't matter that you claim you can afford to lose it.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

No.

You and I might watch someone throw 250 bucks into a fire and think "I would not spend my money that way."

This is vastly different telling someone that "YOU wasted YOUR money on X."

You're either a pretentious prick if you think that's acceptable or clueless.

It isn't pretentious to point out the obvious.

If that offends you then that isn't my fault.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Nope. He will.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Tell them your goal for making the bet and how intentionally losing it achieved that goal so that you can put all this idle judgment about how you spent your money to rest.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I have no issues with the way One Post spent his money. Sometimes you just take a chance. I recall donating $100 a few years ago to something that I wasn't confident in. In the heat of a debate sometimes you aren't rational.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I don't really either besides his ludicrous rationalizations about it.

However, that is one of the reasons he is so fired up about JORR.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I never did get pissed at you so you still have it coming.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Trust me, the last thing I need to do it justify anything that I do in my life to shitbirds like Frank and B-Rick.

JORR and I made a wager, like men. Neither us has has whined about it nor crowed about it. We made an agreement for our own reasons and lived up to it.

Pissants like Frank and B-Rick remind me of some comments by our 26th President.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming.."

Where were these two men of action when the bet was made? Nowhere. If it was such a slam dunk win for JORR they should have asked me for a piece of the action. Where were these two big shots? Sitting back while the crickets chirped and JORR was man enough to lay action on the line. 6 months later they are crowing away about a bet they didn't even make.

Yeah, so I'm sure you'll understand why I really don't feel any compulsion to explain any of my monetary choices to them.

Don't worry, Hillary is probably going to get elected.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don