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Cubs game got a 24.1 local rating and the Bears (playing the Packers in primetime) got a 12.8.

400K more watching the Cubs. Baseball wins!!!!

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Cubs game got a 24.1 local rating and the Bears (playing the Packers in primetime) got a 12.8.

400K more watching the Cubs. Baseball wins!!!!


None of those people are fans.

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Baseball on a bullshit cable channel no one watches just about doubled the TV show on a national network. Awesome.

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Baseball on a bullshit cable channel no one watches just about doubled the TV show on a national network. Awesome.


The NLCS vs a 1-5 team? Doubling it isn't impressive at all.

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Baseball on a bullshit cable channel no one watches just about doubled the TV show on a national network. Awesome.

Phenomenal

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Baseball on a bullshit cable channel no one watches just about doubled the TV show on a national network. Awesome.


The NLCS vs a 1-5 team? Doubling it isn't impressive at all.


Senor used to get an eye-poking boner talking about ratings for bad football crushing ratings for good baseball/hockey.

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Cubs game got a 24.1 local rating and the Bears (playing the Packers in primetime) got a 12.8.

400K more watching the Cubs. Baseball wins!!!!


Baseball's the best sport.

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Baseball on a bullshit cable channel no one watches just about doubled the TV show on a national network. Awesome.


The NLCS vs a 1-5 team? Doubling it isn't impressive at all.

Exactly. This isn't really newsworthy.

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Baseball on a bullshit cable channel no one watches just about doubled the TV show on a national network. Awesome.


The NLCS vs a 1-5 team? Doubling it isn't impressive at all.


Senor used to get an eye-poking boner talking about ratings for bad football crushing ratings for good baseball/hockey.


I have no use for football at the moment, but I just wouldn't think that an NLCS game (the freakin CUBS, nonetheless) doubling a shitty team on Thursday night is all that impressive. They should have crushed them.

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Baseball has always been more popular. It just shows itself in different ways.

Football is specifically designed for television. It's supposed to get better ratings.

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Baseball has always been more popular. It just shows itself in different ways.

Football is specifically designed for television. It's supposed to get better ratings.

Football was invented before television. Flawed premise.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Baseball has always been more popular. It just shows itself in different ways.

Football is specifically designed for television. It's supposed to get better ratings.

Football was invented before television. Flawed premise.


And nobody watched it. :lol:

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Baseball has always been more popular. It just shows itself in different ways.

Football is specifically designed for television. It's supposed to get better ratings.


I will never understand why you think watching something on TV doesn't "count" for popularity. I also don't understand why it matters to you which is more popular. You like baseball more. Who cares if everyone else does?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Baseball has always been more popular. It just shows itself in different ways.

Football is specifically designed for television. It's supposed to get better ratings.

Football was invented before television. Flawed premise.


And nobody watched it. :lol:

The Red Sox had to sell the best player in the history of baseball so the team wouldn't fold. I don't think baseball wins this argument either.

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Baseball on a bullshit cable channel no one watches just about doubled the TV show on a national network. Awesome.
In Chicago.

I'm not sure this is even that impressive. I'm sure the Bulls being on the doorstep of the NBA finals would have gotten higher ratings than the Bears who are as bad as they have been in a decade.

For comparison, 1.43 million homes in Chicago watched the last Hawks Stanley Cup clinching game.

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Baseball on a bullshit cable channel no one watches just about doubled the TV show on a national network. Awesome.
In Chicago.

I'm not sure this is even that impressive.


It is impressive. All we've heard is that nothing can beat football in the ratings. Obviously, it's taken a lot to do it, but the Bears finally have to take the backseat they've long since earned. Frankly, I'm surprised the game even got a 12 here.

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Baseball on a bullshit cable channel no one watches just about doubled the TV show on a national network. Awesome.
In Chicago.

I'm not sure this is even that impressive.


It is impressive. All we've heard is that nothing can beat football in the ratings. Obviously, it's taken a lot to do it, but the Bears finally have to take the backseat they've long since earned. Frankly, I'm surprised the game even got a 12 here.

Nationally It's unbeatable. Locally there are events that beat it. In sure Cleveland had more fans watching the Cavs than a regular season Browns game too.

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Curious Hair wrote:
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Baseball on a bullshit cable channel no one watches just about doubled the TV show on a national network. Awesome.
In Chicago.

I'm not sure this is even that impressive.


It is impressive. All we've heard is that nothing can beat football in the ratings. Obviously, it's taken a lot to do it, but the Bears finally have to take the backseat they've long since earned. Frankly, I'm surprised the game even got a 12 here.

You must be easily impressed.

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I was at a Bears watching party.

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Baseball is clearly on the upswing, and the outlook on the NFL is neutral at best. If MLB could speed these damn playoff games up a little bit, it would help immensely. Even without an active rooting interest in these playoffs, every single game-- except for the first Jays Rangers game in the ALDS-- has been awesome to watch.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Baseball has always been more popular. It just shows itself in different ways.

Football is specifically designed for television. It's supposed to get better ratings.


I will never understand why you think watching something on TV doesn't "count" for popularity. I also don't understand why it matters to you which is more popular. You like baseball more. Who cares if everyone else does?



It's no commitment to watch something on TV. And that's the entire basis of football's supposed popularity. If a better TV show is on some of those "fans" will watch that instead. And it's not so much that I care but rather that the truth is obvious. People like planning a fall Sunday around Bears on TV. They're emotionally attached to the Cubs.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Baseball has always been more popular. It just shows itself in different ways.

Football is specifically designed for television. It's supposed to get better ratings.


I will never understand why you think watching something on TV doesn't "count" for popularity. I also don't understand why it matters to you which is more popular. You like baseball more. Who cares if everyone else does?



It's no commitment to watch something on TV. And that's the entire basis of football's supposed popularity. If a better TV show is on some of those "fans" will watch that instead. And it's not so much that I care but rather that the truth is obvious. People like planning a fall Sunday around Bears on TV. They're emotionally attached to the Cubs.

Many Cub fans on here admitted they stopped watching from 2011-2014 or whatever. Same thing is going on with the Bears now. In general, baseball fans aren't any more emotionally invested than any other fan base.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Baseball has always been more popular. It just shows itself in different ways.

Football is specifically designed for television. It's supposed to get better ratings.


I will never understand why you think watching something on TV doesn't "count" for popularity. I also don't understand why it matters to you which is more popular. You like baseball more. Who cares if everyone else does?



It's no commitment to watch something on TV. And that's the entire basis of football's supposed popularity. If a better TV show is on some of those "fans" will watch that instead. And it's not so much that I care but rather that the truth is obvious. People like planning a fall Sunday around Bears on TV. They're emotionally attached to the Cubs.


That's a generalization. Baseball fans are often just as lazy as any other sport's fans. Additionally, it's a city-centric view. Much of the popularity of these sports is from people in the suburbs or even farther. I'm not going to say that someone who lives in Peoria but doesn't attend a bunch of games isn't a real "fan."

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Baseball has always been more popular. It just shows itself in different ways.

Football is specifically designed for television. It's supposed to get better ratings.


I will never understand why you think watching something on TV doesn't "count" for popularity. I also don't understand why it matters to you which is more popular. You like baseball more. Who cares if everyone else does?



It's no commitment to watch something on TV. And that's the entire basis of football's supposed popularity. If a better TV show is on some of those "fans" will watch that instead. And it's not so much that I care but rather that the truth is obvious. People like planning a fall Sunday around Bears on TV. They're emotionally attached to the Cubs.


That's a generalization. Baseball fans are often just as lazy as any other sport's fans. Additionally, it's a city-centric view. Much of the popularity of these sports is from people in the suburbs or even farther. I'm not going to say that someone who lives in Peoria but doesn't attend a bunch of games isn't a real "fan."


Speaking of Peoria, I didn't realize how effing far away that place is. Its practically St Louis.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Baseball has always been more popular. It just shows itself in different ways.

Football is specifically designed for television. It's supposed to get better ratings.


I will never understand why you think watching something on TV doesn't "count" for popularity. I also don't understand why it matters to you which is more popular. You like baseball more. Who cares if everyone else does?



It's no commitment to watch something on TV. And that's the entire basis of football's supposed popularity. If a better TV show is on some of those "fans" will watch that instead. And it's not so much that I care but rather that the truth is obvious. People like planning a fall Sunday around Bears on TV. They're emotionally attached to the Cubs.


That's a generalization. Baseball fans are often just as lazy as any other sport's fans. Additionally, it's a city-centric view. Much of the popularity of these sports is from people in the suburbs or even farther. I'm not going to say that someone who lives in Peoria but doesn't attend a bunch of games isn't a real "fan."


I always knew Matt wasn't a real fan.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Baseball has always been more popular. It just shows itself in different ways.

Football is specifically designed for television. It's supposed to get better ratings.


I will never understand why you think watching something on TV doesn't "count" for popularity. I also don't understand why it matters to you which is more popular. You like baseball more. Who cares if everyone else does?



It's no commitment to watch something on TV. And that's the entire basis of football's supposed popularity. If a better TV show is on some of those "fans" will watch that instead. And it's not so much that I care but rather that the truth is obvious. People like planning a fall Sunday around Bears on TV. They're emotionally attached to the Cubs.


That's a generalization. Baseball fans are often just as lazy as any other sport's fans. Additionally, it's a city-centric view. Much of the popularity of these sports is from people in the suburbs or even farther. I'm not going to say that someone who lives in Peoria but doesn't attend a bunch of games isn't a real "fan."


Speaking of Peoria, I didn't realize how effing far away that place is. Its practically St Louis.


What?! Peoria is at least 3 hours from St. Louis.

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leashyourkids wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Baseball has always been more popular. It just shows itself in different ways.

Football is specifically designed for television. It's supposed to get better ratings.


I will never understand why you think watching something on TV doesn't "count" for popularity. I also don't understand why it matters to you which is more popular. You like baseball more. Who cares if everyone else does?



It's no commitment to watch something on TV. And that's the entire basis of football's supposed popularity. If a better TV show is on some of those "fans" will watch that instead. And it's not so much that I care but rather that the truth is obvious. People like planning a fall Sunday around Bears on TV. They're emotionally attached to the Cubs.


That's a generalization. Baseball fans are often just as lazy as any other sport's fans. Additionally, it's a city-centric view. Much of the popularity of these sports is from people in the suburbs or even farther. I'm not going to say that someone who lives in Peoria but doesn't attend a bunch of games isn't a real "fan."


Speaking of Peoria, I didn't realize how effing far away that place is. Its practically St Louis.


What?! Peoria is at least 3 hours from St. Louis.


:lol: I know, I just assumed it was closer to Chicago. I never really paid attention until I happened to drive thru.

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leashyourkids wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Baseball has always been more popular. It just shows itself in different ways.

Football is specifically designed for television. It's supposed to get better ratings.


I will never understand why you think watching something on TV doesn't "count" for popularity. I also don't understand why it matters to you which is more popular. You like baseball more. Who cares if everyone else does?



It's no commitment to watch something on TV. And that's the entire basis of football's supposed popularity. If a better TV show is on some of those "fans" will watch that instead. And it's not so much that I care but rather that the truth is obvious. People like planning a fall Sunday around Bears on TV. They're emotionally attached to the Cubs.


That's a generalization. Baseball fans are often just as lazy as any other sport's fans. Additionally, it's a city-centric view. Much of the popularity of these sports is from people in the suburbs or even farther. I'm not going to say that someone who lives in Peoria but doesn't attend a bunch of games isn't a real "fan."


Speaking of Peoria, I didn't realize how effing far away that place is. Its practically St Louis.


What?! Peoria is at least 3 hours from St. Louis.

Shut up, Hayseed.

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