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Lots of reports coming out today painting the relationship between Fox and Pace as not so good.


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Heard something about top Bears brass recently doing a complete evaluation of system from top down.

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Heard something about top Bears brass recently doing a complete evaluation of system from top down.
Only 5 years late on this.

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Heard something about top Bears brass recently doing a complete evaluation of system from top down.
Only 5 years late on this.

:lol: Not sure if state troopers were posted outside the door as well...

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They'll let him finish out the year because that's a McCaskey thing to do, but he's pretty clearly a goner. He didn't make sense for the Bears in the first place, an old win-now coach for a team starting fresh.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... m-john-fox

As the second year under coach John Fox has played out, it hasn't been anything the Bears imagined. Thus far, there has been no magic turnaround, amid quarterback issues, injury woes and all-around gaffes.

With the franchise heading in the wrong direction, the team's brass has begun a full examination of the football operation from top to bottom, according to several sources briefed of their process.


They've tapped what is being described as an outside consultant to help.

At 1-6, everything is up for review. It's clear Fox's footing beyond 2016 is shaky. As for the front office and general manager Ryan Pace, the current view from inside is that two years is far too quick to judge those tabbed with acquiring talent, especially with the 2016 draft class showing flashes of being a strong one.

Fox has two more years left on a four-year deal, while Pace has three years left on a five-year deal -- both fully guaranteed.

While the Bears get set to play the Vikings on Monday, sources say there were some intense meetings this week in Chicago involving members of the front office and some coaches. It is clear everyone is not on the same page.

They'll start a quarterback in Jay Cutler on Monday that the front office and Fox clearly aren't including in their future plans. In fact, they kept him away from practice as Brian Hoyer started, clearing him right after Hoyer's injury. Grudgingly, Cutler is now back under center, knowing this organization has tried to trade him in the past.

Asked this week if he has Fox's trust, Cutler deadpanned: "He doesn't have a choice, I guess, at this point."


There is frustration with the talent on the field. This year's first-round pick, Leonard Floyd, is starting to come into his own, with two sacks and a forced fumble against the Packers. But 2015 first-round receiver Kevin White (ankle) and 2014 first-round cornerback Kyle Fuller are both on injured reserve despite showing considerable skill. They are not alone.

Rival executives and coaches have roundly criticized almost everything the Bears have done this year. Some wonder if Fox is as invested as he's been in the past. Those close to Fox say he works as many hours as he always has, staying late and watching film. Still, it's obvious he won't pull off a second-year turnaround with the Bears as he has done in the past with the Panthers and Broncos.

Others wonder about personnel moves, including why reserve quarterback Matt Barkley is even on the team, considering he has no future with it.

As chairman George McCaskey and the team's brass mull future moves, everyone has been put on notice.

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30 years after winning a Super Bowl and it's time for a top down evaluation. Very proactive.


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They've tapped what is being described as an outside consultant to help.

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My hope is the outside consultant comes in and tells them everything from owners all the way down sucks and they should sell the team.


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Hopefully Tom Ricketts buys the Bears.

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sell the team to the fans in stock and let us vote in management

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My hope is the outside consultant comes in and tells them everything from owners all the way down sucks and they should sell the team.

I think the day Virginia passes the team goes up for sale.


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At this point, I gotta believe Fox was not who Pace wanted to hire. I'm guessing it came from above his head that we needed a "name" coach to satisfy the fanbase.


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Been down the consultant road before..

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Not sure who leaked this story. Seems like Pace's camp but if so then the part about the consultant doesn't make sense - that's supposed to be Pace's job.

Has Cutler soured on every coach in his career at this point? He's obviously a toxic presence and I'd dump him right now if Hoyer weren't injured.

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Was there a loud voice in the room?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Hopefully Tom Ricketts buys the Bears.


Maybe John McDonough is ready to fix the Bears? Replace sweaty Teddy.

Would it surprise anyone if the beloved persued Fitz after this season?


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Was there a loud voice in the room?


beat me to it


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Would it surprise anyone if the beloved persued Fitz after this season?


Well, they recently thought it was a good idea to get a guy who had been coaching in a league that may as well play a different sport altogether. I guess a middling college football coach is in their wheelhouse. Both Northwestern and the Bears have no greater goal than "I mean, we did well, considering."

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Was there a loud voice in the room?


That's what my guy tells me.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Hopefully Tom Ricketts buys the Bears.


Maybe John McDonough is ready to fix the Bears? Replace sweaty Teddy.

Would it surprise anyone if the beloved persued Fitz after this season?


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Hopefully Tom Ricketts buys the Bears.


Maybe John McDonough is ready to fix the Bears? Replace sweaty Teddy.

Would it surprise anyone if the beloved persued Fitz after this season?


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Feel free to complain to the posters on that other site. If you can find any.

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Edward Dickman wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Maybe John McDonough is ready to fix the Bears? Replace sweaty Teddy.

Would it surprise anyone if the beloved persued Fitz after this season?


Pay up, deadbeat.

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At this point, I gotta believe Fox was not who Pace wanted to hire. I'm guessing it came from above his head that we needed a "name" coach to satisfy the fanbase.


But Dan Bernstein told me over and over and over again that "Ted. Phillips. And. George. McCaskey. Are. Not. Involved. In. Football. Decisions."

It even caused a painfully awkward on-air moment when during tranny Bernstein told Mannelly "say this and you'll sound smart".


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So you are going to hire yet another coach who will want his own players. It is fucking ridiculous.

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If they get embarrassed tomorrow night, the axe should fall on Fox.


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Funny how Ted recently said the Bears were a couple bad breaks from being 3-3, and if they were 3-3, no one would question they were going in the right direction. Hopefully that fucking douchebag is launched along with Pace and Fox.

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Ted is an honorary son at this point. He's not going anywhere. Best you can hope for is them hiring a football czar who fully insulates Ted from football-ops.

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Funny how Ted recently said the Bears were a couple bad breaks from being 3-3, and if they were 3-3, no one would question they were going in the right direction. Hopefully that fucking douchebag is launched along with Pace and Fox.


He also pretty much said, fuck it, we make money even when we are bad.

Any housecleaning with the Bears would involve removing sweaty teddy or at least relegating him to counting numbers

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At this point, I gotta believe Fox was not who Pace wanted to hire. I'm guessing it came from above his head that we needed a "name" coach to satisfy the fanbase.


But Dan Bernstein told me over and over and over again that "Ted. Phillips. And. George. McCaskey. Are. Not. Involved. In. Football. Decisions."

It even caused a painfully awkward on-air moment when during tranny Bernstein told Mannelly "say this and you'll sound smart".


but I saw Sweaty Teddy on some road to the NFL type show get up before the entire football team to address them

No football player should know who Ted Phillips is

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They are reporting that both Pace & Fox are being looked at.

Why should these two not get treated like the last two?

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