Probably should be. Forced on the general manager by an outside consultant, team is near the bottom in points scored and allowed, looks like they're headed for their worst record in years. If Ryan Pace is this boy genius, let him hire his own guy. You can't go into next season with 11 wins in two years (guessing) and say you like your people, can you?

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I want him gone.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Fox is fine if there's no tension between him and Pace. If there is then we've got a different situation here. I'm fine with the record because it's a transition period and you're cleaning up someone else's mess. What would be unacceptable is lack of effort on the field and sidelines for Fox, and a lack of talent infusion on Pace's part.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Does it matter?

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I want someone else grooming a QB. Not sure who Foxy can bring in as O coordinator. Have no trust in that aspect.

I hope not.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Should be simply for his OC choice for this year.

Won't be.

If he is, then hopefully Jabrill Peppers will be available at the Bears' pick, because there's no point spending a high QB pick with Fox & Loggins & Messina as the offensive brain trust.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

Jabrill Peppers, good, not great player. I feel bad for the team that overdrafts him. He's not Charles Woodson

I was amazed to hear his first interception was Saturday.

Baseball Managers don't matter , but football coaches do?

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

This guy gets it.

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Of course football coaches matter way more than baseball managers.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Why?

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

I hope this is a bit, otherwise it could be an all-time bad thought on this board.

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Asking him for his thoughts on the topic is a bad thought?
I didn't say I disagreed with him.
The hell is wrong with people around here?

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

There's a shitload more that goes on in terms of both prepping for the game and in-game decision making in football. I concur with DB that it's a bit silly to even ask the question you did. I didn't think it needed to be explained.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Yes he probably should be gone at the end of the year. But not sure I have any confidence in them getting anyone better. Maybe they can rehire Lovie

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Well, I ask because I'm wondering if you're of the opinion that a baseball manager just fills out a lineup and let's it all happen. Or if you're of the opinion that a head coach doesn't call plays on either of the three phases of the game, leaving the job to the coordinators, and just makes the calls like whether to go for it on 4th or not only and maybe some high level personal decisions.
I suppose one could say that a head coach does little other than a general game plan and some lineup filling as he's got coaches not just for each of the play calling phases but for each position as well.
The sheer number of coaches kinda makes it seem like maybe the head coach isn't really more responsible for the final product any more than a baseball manager might be.

Or perhaps it was a question of sample size... 16 games vs. 162.

I was just wondering what his reasoning is. Wasn't debating it

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

I wouldn't mind if Fox is gone, but I'm not going to be upset if he isn't. Do the players still believe in him or do they look at him as someone living on his past, I guess? Seems like the team needs to be overhauled anyway, so why not overhaul the coaching also. Let's poach Keith Butler from the Steelers or Matt Patricia from the Patriots.

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With the talent or lack there of on the field yesterday....what coach could make this current group a playoff team?????

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

on the flip side, I believe he is good for Jordan Howard's development

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

He's also not Kyle Fuller

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

He should teach Howard to catch.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

and a few others

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

How many years does he have remaining on his contract? Some reports say he has three years left while others indicate he only has two years to go.

I can't imagine that the Bears would can Fox with three years left on his deal.

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Why not?

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Bad hire. He has to go. Cut your losses and start fresh with a guy the GM can work with.

Nope, sounds like the Bears are going to have their worst season since 1969 (this is legitimately hard for me to believe, the Bears have been bad for most of my lifetime and yet this is the year they've never been worse) and keep the coaching staff.

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For all we know, he has been in on the plan to lose this year since Cutler's first injury. Trust the process...or something.

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Someone has to get fired for the embarrassment today. Any other type of loss, and I could see Fox surviving, but this team just up and quit in every phase of the game. If Coachy McCoach-Face can't amp up guys playing for their future jobs, which is a trait we were told was important enough to overlook his awful gameday coaching/management, then he has outlived his usefulness.

Let Pace go out and get his own guy to helm the last 1-2 years of this rebuild and see where you are after that.