It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:07 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 598 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:43 pm
Posts: 20537
pizza_Place: Joes Pizza
Good grief, Jerry. You get a stadium damn near rent free!!!

Instead of wanting 4 "can't miss" prospects you take a lesser package since they're "free".

Die already.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:22 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79552
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
America wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
So instead of getting better players in the back of the deal like Groome or Travis they took the money. Cheap fuckers.

Jerry FUCKING Reinsdorf ladies and gents...cant believe it. You add Swihart to this deal and being something I can stomach, but I guess that's not important.


Yep. And at $100 million Sale is still underpaid.

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:46 pm
Posts: 22456
pizza_Place: Giordano's
Jesus Christ, people, calm down, here is the tweet (from a guy who gets paid to write and talk about baseball, mind you):

Image

1.) Half of the "$63 million deal" was a penalty paid to the MLB for exceeding the signing pool allotted for the Sawx.

2.) The "$31.2 million left" is the bonus money the Sawx agreed to pay Moncada for signing with them. He is otherwise on a standard minor league contract.

3.) I don't think bonus money from an international signing can be transferred as a balance in case of a trade, as it is not salary. Red Sox were on the hook for it either way.

This is merely Bruce Levine being an idiot, and your outrage could be quelled by a rather easy google search. :roll:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:46 am
Posts: 26636
Location: NW SUBURBS OF CHICAGO
pizza_Place: any from anywhere
The fairness of this deal rides on the 2 other prospects they got. It's looking like they would have been better off trading with the Cubs or any other team that would have mixed youngsters with at least one proven veteran. Instead the Sox got two maybe's and two afterthoughts.

_________________
favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72380
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
jimmypasta wrote:
The fairness of this deal rides on the 2 other prospects they got. It's looking like they would have been better off trading with the Cubs or any other team that would have mixed youngsters with at least one proven veteran. Instead the Sox got two maybe's and two afterthoughts.

Pretty much everyone agree the other two prospects are terrible and won't ever be good. Sox got fucked hard on this.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:35 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 42094
Location: Rock Ridge (splendid!)
pizza_Place: Charlie Fox's / Paisano's
Maybe finally the Sox can rebuild in peace for a couple-three years and then jettison into the upper echelons of the MLB, while the Coob are still within their current win-now window. If so, we live in exciting times indeed. Crosstown World Series 2020.

_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:36 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79552
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
jimmypasta wrote:
The fairness of this deal rides on the 2 other prospects they got. It's looking like they would have been better off trading with the Cubs or any other team that would have mixed youngsters with at least one proven veteran. Instead the Sox got two maybe's and two afterthoughts.



HOYER. SAID. HE. DID. NOT. WANT. TO. TRADE. WITH. THE. SOX.


Trades between geographical rivals do not occur often. Did you know the Dodgers and Giants have only made three trades over the past sixty years?

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:46 am
Posts: 26636
Location: NW SUBURBS OF CHICAGO
pizza_Place: any from anywhere
I feel bad for Sox Nation today. You just don't trade elite talent for 2 decent prospects and two throw in's. I would have rather kept Sale.

_________________
favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:13 am
Posts: 17583
Location: BLM Lake Forest Chapter
pizza_Place: Quonset
Wasn't he supposed to pull at least one All Star caliber position player and a slew of can't miss prospects?

_________________
Don Tiny wrote:
Don't be such a fucking chump.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:51 pm
Posts: 6302
Location: Calumet City
pizza_Place: Johns in Cal City
GoldenJet wrote:
Wasn't he supposed to pull at least one All Star caliber position player and a slew of can't miss prospects?

They got the prospect of $31 million.

_________________
STU-GOTZ wrote:
Well Mac told me to to tell you to go FUCK YOURSELF!!! ..So now it's been said .. .


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82220
America wrote:
Needed one more piece like Devers or Swihart to make this a good deal. I think Hahn heard "Ok, we'll give up Moncada" and just said yes. If Moncada isn't an absolute monster this trade will go down as one of the worst in MLB history.


and honestly, how many second basemen end up being monsters?

They traded Sale for a non impact position everyday player

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:45 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79552
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
good dolphin wrote:
America wrote:
Needed one more piece like Devers or Swihart to make this a good deal. I think Hahn heard "Ok, we'll give up Moncada" and just said yes. If Moncada isn't an absolute monster this trade will go down as one of the worst in MLB history.


and honestly, how many second basemen end up being monsters?

They traded Sale for a non impact position everyday player



I'm gonna guess he actually ends up playing third.

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:13 am
Posts: 17583
Location: BLM Lake Forest Chapter
pizza_Place: Quonset
Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
Wasn't he supposed to pull at least one All Star caliber position player and a slew of can't miss prospects?

They got the prospect of $31 million.


Whoa...so they can go sign some shit players to lowball contracts?

_________________
Don Tiny wrote:
Don't be such a fucking chump.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:51 pm
Posts: 6302
Location: Calumet City
pizza_Place: Johns in Cal City
GoldenJet wrote:
Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
Wasn't he supposed to pull at least one All Star caliber position player and a slew of can't miss prospects?

They got the prospect of $31 million.


Whoa...so they can go sign some shit players to lowball contracts?

Nope. The Chairman puts it in his pocket.

No one goes to the park anyway. Might as well tank and pay less salaries.

_________________
STU-GOTZ wrote:
Well Mac told me to to tell you to go FUCK YOURSELF!!! ..So now it's been said .. .


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:19 am
Posts: 23915
pizza_Place: Jimmy's Place
what a bunch of namby pambies. you'd think this was the first time you got anally probed by JR.

_________________
Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:13 am
Posts: 17583
Location: BLM Lake Forest Chapter
pizza_Place: Quonset
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
America wrote:
Needed one more piece like Devers or Swihart to make this a good deal. I think Hahn heard "Ok, we'll give up Moncada" and just said yes. If Moncada isn't an absolute monster this trade will go down as one of the worst in MLB history.


and honestly, how many second basemen end up being monsters?

They traded Sale for a non impact position everyday player



I'm gonna guess he actually ends up playing third.


From the look of his highlight films, I'd agree with you. He doesn't look or field like a second baseman. He looked serviceable.

_________________
Don Tiny wrote:
Don't be such a fucking chump.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 17, 2013 6:09 pm
Posts: 11005
pizza_Place: Generic Pizza Store
This thread is getting meatbally fast


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82220
FavreFan wrote:
A couple days ago I kept saying Hahn and KW should be fired. Now I want them both murdered. I'm pretty much done with the Sox until these two fucking clowns are gone.


I am not happy with these two gentlemen either.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:12 pm
Posts: 2865
pizza_Place: maciano's
billypootons wrote:
This thread is getting meatbally fast



I can't wait for the uproar when they leave him in minors for the first 7 weeks of the season to push back arbitration.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82220
Nothing like the feeling of a good minor league system

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:04 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 42094
Location: Rock Ridge (splendid!)
pizza_Place: Charlie Fox's / Paisano's
Would it be appropriate to re-conjugate his name to Chris Sold?

_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:46 pm
Posts: 22456
pizza_Place: Giordano's
Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
Wasn't he supposed to pull at least one All Star caliber position player and a slew of can't miss prospects?

They got the prospect of $31 million.


Whoa...so they can go sign some shit players to lowball contracts?

Nope. The Chairman puts it in his pocket.

No one goes to the park anyway. Might as well tank and pay less salaries.


Ok, seriously now: You guys realize the Sox couldn't negotiate to pay or not pay Moncada's bonus money, right? You realize that, like all deferred payments, they are not transferred when a trade occurs, right? Which is how the Red Sox are still paying Manny Ramirez and Adrian Gonzalez, the Mets Bobby Bonilla, etc. Are we clear on that?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:12 pm
Posts: 2865
pizza_Place: maciano's
Don Tiny wrote:
Would it be appropriate to re-conjugate his name to Chris Sold?


The Red Sox beg to differ, they got him on Sale.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:10 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72380
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
TurdFerguson wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Would it be appropriate to re-conjugate his name to Chris Sold?


The Red Sox beg to differ, they got him on Sale.

Eaglo Jeff wrote:
the Price must have been right!

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:39 pm
Posts: 19521
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
Last time the White Sox had a top rated system I believe it was because of the highly touted Jon Rauch. That worked out great. Good thing they rushed to trade Sale. Red Sox winning the World Series again. Great.

_________________
Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

The Missing Link wrote:
For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:10 pm
Posts: 32067
pizza_Place: Milano's
FavreFan wrote:
TurdFerguson wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Would it be appropriate to re-conjugate his name to Chris Sold?


The Red Sox beg to differ, they got him on Sale.

Eaglo Jeff wrote:
the Price must have been right!


:lol: :lol: :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 42094
Location: Rock Ridge (splendid!)
pizza_Place: Charlie Fox's / Paisano's
He's off the team for next year!

_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:46 pm
Posts: 22456
pizza_Place: Giordano's
Jesus, when this place decides to hivemind about something, there are no expenses spared. :roll:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82220
They didn't get a team's top prospect for Chris Sale. That is bad.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Trading Sale
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:23 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 22704
pizza_Place: A few...
Not to pile on but reaction from fans on a few Red Sox message boards is about 98% positive.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 598 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group