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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:28 am 
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what do you guys got for recipes? I'm more a red sauce kinda guy..spicy is always nice but I'll try anything.


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Saute til onions are translucent

1/4 cup onion
2-3 ribs of diced celery

add 2 cloves of chopped garlic for 30 secs or til fragrent

Brown
Pack of italian sausage - bulk or casing removed
1lb ground beef

add
1 can (14 oz) diced tomatoes
12 oz tomato paste
big can (28 oz?) crushed tomatoes
64 oz tomato juice

Bring to a boil. Then add
1 tsp + dried basil
1 tsp + dried oregano
1/8 tsp pepper
salt
1/2 tsp baking soda
1 tsp + dried parsley

Simmer until the thickness you desire.

I like hunts or muir glen tomato products. Campbells tomato juice.

What I like about this recipe is that you can adjust it. You can add broths or wine. Extra meat, more or less spices. Red pepper flakes or hot sausage works too.


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Spaulding wrote:
Saute til onions are translucent

1/4 cup onion
2-3 ribs of diced celery

add 2 cloves of chopped garlic for 30 secs or til fragrent

Brown
Pack of italian sausage - bulk or casing removed
1lb ground beef

add
1 can (14 oz) diced tomatoes
12 oz tomato paste
big can (28 oz?) crushed tomatoes
64 oz tomato juice

Bring to a boil. Then add
1 tsp + dried basil
1 tsp + dried oregano
1/8 tsp pepper
salt
1/2 tsp baking soda
1 tsp + dried parsley

Simmer until the thickness you desire.

I like hunts or muir glen tomato products. Campbells tomato juice.

What I like about this recipe is that you can adjust it. You can add broths or wine. Extra meat, more or less spices. Red pepper flakes or hot sausage works too.


Do you ever cook with sherry? I have a couple recipes that call for it, but I don't even know where to get it. Binny's?

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I got some at Mariano's. #betatobeta

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I got some at Mariano's. #betatobeta


Thanks! #betabros

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You are missing the diced carrots for a true mirepoix... but that recipe looks like it will more than get the job done. You may also like to add some heavy cream for a richer flavor, and fresh basil chiffonade added towards the end of cooking will add some brightness.

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I've made what I call succo or red gravy hundreds of times and I couldn't really tell you the exact recipe. I just get the chopped onions going in olive oil and add the chopped garlic. In another pot I put the tomato paste and add water to the desired thickness. When the onions and garlic are ready I dump them in the pot and then season with sugar, salt, black pepper, and basil. Very simple. Somehow it comes out tasting the same way every time.

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It never tastes as good as this:

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It never tastes as good as this:

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Oh, bullshit, jimmy. You should stop by my club one of these days. I'll show you what Dago cooking is really about.

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I know it's sacrilege for a full-blooded Italian to say that,but I've had both in my lifetime plenty of times and the Ragu/Prego jarred stuff usually wins out.

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Add a piece of chocolate.

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:lol: @ Mike

Jimmy, you must be my father. You are exactly the same people. And his name is Jim!

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Add a piece of chocolate.

:lol: :lol:


Lose the celery but add finely shredded carrots like Newper said then you're on the trolley.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
It never tastes as good as this:

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Oh, bullshit, jimmy. You should stop by my club one of these days. I'll show you what Dago cooking is really about.


Henry Hill: I felt he used too many onions, but it was still a very good sauce.

Paul Cicero: Vinnie, don't put too many onions in the sauce.

Vinnie: I didn't put too much onions, uh, Paul. Three small onions. That's all I did.

Johnny Dio: Three onions? How many cans of tomatoes you put in there?

Vinnie: I put two cans, two big cans.

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Jimmy dropped a lot of truth in this thread.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I've made what I call succo or red gravy hundreds of times and I couldn't really tell you the exact recipe. I just get the chopped onions going in olive oil and add the chopped garlic. In another pot I put the tomato paste and add water to the desired thickness. When the onions and garlic are ready I dump them in the pot and then season with sugar, salt, black pepper, and basil. Very simple. Somehow it comes out tasting the same way every time.


Am making gravy (sauce) for a party tomorrow and did the onion and garlic as you suggested. Added it to the Italian Sausage and Italian style ground turkey. Did the rest of the seasoning and used cinnamon instead of sugar....splendid...

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Once I tried my fiancée's homemade, I never went back to the jarred crap. It's easy and tastes way better.

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newper wrote:
You are missing the diced carrots for a true mirepoix... but that recipe looks like it will more than get the job done. You may also like to add some heavy cream for a richer flavor, and fresh basil chiffonade added towards the end of cooking will add some brightness.


I don't like carrots in my sauce.


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I keep a pretty simple recipe like JORR, but a few additional things. I roast garlic cloves first, I think about 35 minutes in a pan with olive oil, salt and pepper. Then I chop the cloves up very finely. Onions and some red pepper sauteed. Finally, I add the rind from a Parmesan cheese block. I mix a can of tomato paste to three cans of plum tomatos finely chopped. Might be some other stuff in there depending on what I have around the house.

Also, if you want to be a dago, call it gravy. It won't make the sauce any better, but I think it makes people think you know what you are doing.

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Spaulding wrote:
Saute til onions are translucent

1/4 cup onion
2-3 ribs of diced celery

add 2 cloves of chopped garlic for 30 secs or til fragrent

Brown
Pack of italian sausage - bulk or casing removed
1lb ground beef

add
1 can (14 oz) diced tomatoes
12 oz tomato paste
big can (28 oz?) crushed tomatoes
64 oz tomato juice

Bring to a boil. Then add
1 tsp + dried basil
1 tsp + dried oregano
1/8 tsp pepper
salt
1/2 tsp baking soda
1 tsp + dried parsley

Simmer until the thickness you desire.

I like hunts or muir glen tomato products. Campbells tomato juice.

What I like about this recipe is that you can adjust it. You can add broths or wine. Extra meat, more or less spices. Red pepper flakes or hot sausage works too.


I assume the ground beef is for meatballs or is this for a meat sauce? This looks like chili.

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I assume the ground beef is for meatballs or is this for a meat sauce? This looks like chili.


It's not chili because there are no chili peppers or chili powder in it. It's the one we like, you don't have to eat it if you don't want. I've done the gravy with necks, meatbones, and spare ribs and I don't like it. The flavor is fine but the texture is off.

You can use all sausage in this one, you can add wine or broth, you can add whole sausages, meatballs, or braciole. Feel free to post your authentic Sunday gravy unless it's one of those big family secrets. It essentially has the components of the recipes I've been given but it's deconstructed to a sauce which is what was asked for. The gravy is more of a ragu.


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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Also, if you want to be a dago, call it gravy. It won't make the sauce any better, but I think it makes people think you know what you are doing.

Hardly. Gravy is what italians who feel they need more "cred" say but actually they sound like idiots. At best, Italian Americans from certain cities call it gravy (not Chicago).

http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/37 ... 37_12.html

http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_vall ... cs_of.html

http://bostoniano.info/northendspirit/e ... avy-sauce/

http://www.hardcoreitalians.com/blog/th ... y-or-sauce

And by definition, Hoffy, if your sauce has NO meat in it it cannot possibly be a gravy.

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Do you ever cook with sherry? I have a couple recipes that call for it, but I don't even know where to get it. Binny's?


Sorry, not really. Sometimes I'll put it in a cream sauce when I make crepes but that's about it. I don't know what to do with it. I'll use marsala sometimes but again I don't have a lot of uses for it. It's something I'd like to look into more but haven't had the time. I think it's called Florio. It's cheap but pretty good.


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IMU wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Also, if you want to be a dago, call it gravy. It won't make the sauce any better, but I think it makes people think you know what you are doing.

Hardly. Gravy is what italians who feel they need more "cred" say but actually they sound like idiots. At best, Italian Americans from certain cities call it gravy (not Chicago).

http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/37 ... 37_12.html

http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_vall ... cs_of.html

http://bostoniano.info/northendspirit/e ... avy-sauce/

http://www.hardcoreitalians.com/blog/th ... y-or-sauce

And by definition, Hoffy, if your sauce has NO meat in it it cannot possibly be a gravy.


IMU the linguist chiming in again with his expertise.

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newper wrote:
You are missing the diced carrots for a true mirepoix...

green peppers for trinity or gtfo

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I've made what I call succo or red gravy hundreds of times and I couldn't really tell you the exact recipe. I just get the chopped onions going in olive oil and add the chopped garlic. In another pot I put the tomato paste and add water to the desired thickness. When the onions and garlic are ready I dump them in the pot and then season with sugar, salt, black pepper, and basil. Very simple. Somehow it comes out tasting the same way every time.

Finally! Someone who knows what he's talking about!
In our family we called it "sugo."
People who call sugo "gravy" are the same kind of poseurs who call a pizza a "pie!"

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Dago .


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leashyourkids wrote:

Do you ever cook with sherry? I have a couple recipes that call for it, but I don't even know where to get it. Binny's?


I have a few recipes that use sherry. Used it in the sauce for Chicken Picatta that I made last night. I also put it in my mushroom cream sauce that I like to put on ravioli. Interesting change from red sauce.

I get my sherry at Binny's. Buy the dry, not the cream. No need to buy the expensive stuff for cooking.

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