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 Post subject: Re: Timberwolves @ Bulls
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:35 pm 
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And what exactly does Canaan bring to the team?


unnecessary extra A's?

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And what exactly does Canaan bring to the team?


unnecessary extra A's?

He's David Aardsma's favorite player.


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 Post subject: Re: Timberwolves @ Bulls
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This is like being back in the Vinny Del Negro era.


Hoiberg didn't keep them focused tonight after the early lead. The Bulls only scored 53 points after the 1st quarter.

I know he was at a disadvantage tonight because of Rondo being out, but damn, he waits too long sometimes to make adjustments to his lineups on the floor.

He let that game slip away in the 2nd quarter by leaving the second unit out there. And what exactly does Canaan bring to the team?



Yep. He should have switched Wade over to Rubio. Lavine got out on a few runouts. Hoiberg 0-2 in revenge games this yr.

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As I say I've never been big on the whole "minutes" thing and I never really held Thibs liable for the injuries thing but this one thing hasn't ever been discussed with regards to it. I think it helps explain somewhat his gaudy regular season record. The fact that he typically plays his starters longer means that his starters are usually playing against 2nd stringers once the other team goes to the bench you saw it play out tonight and helps explain how that big 2nd quarter lead was erased. Look at the minutes played by the Starters for each team

http://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=400899812

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 Post subject: Re: Timberwolves @ Bulls
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Yeah but you're saying that like its a bad thing. Unless you're talking about guys over 30 it's a good idea to play your best guys as much as you can.

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As I say I've never been big on the whole "minutes" thing and I never really held Thibs liable for the injuries thing but this one issue hasn't ever been discussed with regards to it. I think it helps explain somewhat his gaudy regular season record. The fact that he typically plays his starters longer means that his starters are usually playing against 2nd stringers once the other team goes to the bench you saw it play out tonight and helps explain how that big 2nd quarter lead was erased. Look at the minutes played by the Starters for each team

http://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=400899812

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Yeah but you're saying that like its a bad thing. Unless you're talking about guys over 30 it's a good idea to play your best guys as much as you can.



I'm not really talking about it in the usual gets guys hurt thing. If you look at tonight's game the run was made against 2nd stringers during the 2nd quarter. He played his starters. No way of knowing but I bet he won a number of games while coaching the Bulls doing exactly the same thing. Problem with that is during the playoffs everyone plays their starters big minutes. Now it is more of an even fight and you have to actually coach and scheme a little more.

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 Post subject: Re: Timberwolves @ Bulls
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Yeah but you're saying that like its a bad thing. Unless you're talking about guys over 30 it's a good idea to play your best guys as much as you can.



I'm not really talking about it in the usual gets guys hurt thing. If you look at tonight's game the run was made against 2nd stringers during the 2nd quarter. He played his starters. No way of knowing but I bet he won a number of games while coaching the Bulls doing exactly the same thing. Problem with that is during the playoffs everyone plays their starters big minutes. Now it is more of an even fight and you have to actually coach and scheme a little more.


No he usually played 1 guy a shit load of mins. It was Deng and then Butler. The Bulls won a lot back then because their bench was so much better than everyone else. In the playoffs teams didn't go to their bench as much.

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 Post subject: Re: Timberwolves @ Bulls
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Nas wrote:
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Yeah but you're saying that like its a bad thing. Unless you're talking about guys over 30 it's a good idea to play your best guys as much as you can.



I'm not really talking about it in the usual gets guys hurt thing. If you look at tonight's game the run was made against 2nd stringers during the 2nd quarter. He played his starters. No way of knowing but I bet he won a number of games while coaching the Bulls doing exactly the same thing. Problem with that is during the playoffs everyone plays their starters big minutes. Now it is more of an even fight and you have to actually coach and scheme a little more.


No he usually played 1 guy a shit load of mins. It was Deng and then Butler. The Bulls won a lot back then because their bench was so much better than everyone else. In the playoffs teams didn't go to their bench as much.



Everyone shortens their bench in the playoffs. The Bulls during Thins first 2 years were remarkably healthy. That helped alot. 8 guys 80 plus during that first year. If I were to look at the minutes thing strongly I'm sure it's more than Deng and Butler. He does the the same thing with Minn. In one of their rare blowouts he kept the starters in til the 3 min mark. They were up 30.

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 Post subject: Re: Timberwolves @ Bulls
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Yeah but you're saying that like its a bad thing. Unless you're talking about guys over 30 it's a good idea to play your best guys as much as you can.



I'm not really talking about it in the usual gets guys hurt thing. If you look at tonight's game the run was made against 2nd stringers during the 2nd quarter. He played his starters. No way of knowing but I bet he won a number of games while coaching the Bulls doing exactly the same thing. Problem with that is during the playoffs everyone plays their starters big minutes. Now it is more of an even fight and you have to actually coach and scheme a little more.


No he usually played 1 guy a shit load of mins. It was Deng and then Butler. The Bulls won a lot back then because their bench was so much better than everyone else. In the playoffs teams didn't go to their bench as much.



Everyone shortens their bench in the playoffs. The Bulls during Thins first 2 years were remarkably healthy. That helped alot. 8 guys 80 plus during that first year. If I were to look at the minutes thing strongly I'm sure it's more than Deng and Butler. He does the the same thing with Minn. In one of their rare blowouts he kept the starters in til the 3 min mark. They were up 30.


In his first year he played Rose and Deng over 36 mins a game. The following 2 years Deng was the only player that played a shit load of mins. The Final 2 years it as Butler.

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