I smell a bit....

Miles Garrett is the answer should he be available

You have to overdraft for a qb. We can't wait for the number 1 pick and Andrew Luck. That happens once a decade.

Virtually every team we strive to be has one position player that is great to hall of fame great. When you have the third pick in the draft you don't pass on a qb when you desperately need one.

I can't believe we have to watch Green Bay have two hall of fame quarterbacks and people want the guy who is a national name because he is a great kick returner.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

So no matter how the QB is graded out they should take them with the 3rd pick? Lets say the kid from NC is the highest ranking QB on your board and he is #20. You have several other highly ranked players at other positions to choose from, but you still go for the QB?

I just fail to see how that is smart.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

The simple answer is yes.

If you have a first round grade on a qb you take him. If you have a couple who are roughly the same you can consider trading back a few spots and still taking them with a higher pick than average.

No one has ever had a pro bowl quarterback and said "Yeah, but we had to draft him with the third pick in the draft when he thought he was worthy of the twentieth pick".

Just look at the teams you wish the Bears were. Almost all of them will have a great to hall of fame level quarterback. Draft the guy at 3 who has the best chance of becoming that. He may fail but all draft picks may fail. If you hit on a QB with the third pick you are set for a really long time.

If the Bears pass on a quarterback with the third pick the guy they are getting they must project him as a perennial pro bowl player almost immediately to justify it.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Why reach for a QB in the first when none are worthy? I don't have a problem with them drafting one in the 3rd or 4th but this class blows.

Well at least you limit it to only guys with first round grades at QB.

I just don't see any of these QBs being that good. But I dont think anyone saw Dak being that good either.

Is it the Browns and 49ers before the Bears?


It was said a few weeks ago, the Browns had a really really high grade on some pass rusher. So, the question would be if the Browns take him and don't trade, WTF will Chip Kelly do? The Bears literally could have the 1st crack at a QB.

People say this just about every year and they are almost always wrong.

There may not be an Andrew Luck no-brainer #1 pick but those happen so rarely that it shouldn't even be a consideration to wait for since it is so rare to actually be #1 in a draft with a pick like that available.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

I wouldn't draft Kizer or (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in the 1st round, the top 5 is absurd to draft either, let's see how Goff and Wentz compare to Dak Prescott. Look at Bottles and Manziel compared to Carr.

You can find a qb in the later rounds. The odds are significantly worse they will be anything but average.

First round picks can fail. Many do. So do a lot of other first round picks.

I guess we should pass on them for a guy who is only hyped because he is a really good kick returner in a league that may not even have kick returns soon.

Based on the playoff standings now, 7 of the 12 quarterbacks who will be playing in it are 1st round picks. Most consistently elite teams from year to year are starting first round picks.

I guess we can hope and pray that we end up with the once every 5 years type of player that is a 4th round or later pick that is really good.

Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

Would you be ok with the Bears using their early second round pick on a QB? It worked for the Raiders with Carr.

I agree, no way you wait until the 4th or later to draft a QB. That's just moronic when QB is one of your top needs.

If you hate Laurence, then don't listen - don't comment. When he co-hosts the B&B show, take that day off ... listen to an old podcast of a Bernstein solo show and jerk off all day.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Would you be ok with the Bears using their early second round pick on a QB? It worked for the Raiders with Carr.

I agree, no way you wait until the 4th or later to draft a QB. That's just moronic when QB is one of your top needs.

2015 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 Jameis Winston QB Florida State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1 2 Marcus Mariota QB Oregon Tennessee Titans
3 75 Garrett Grayson QB Colorado State New Orleans Saints
3 89 Sean Mannion QB Oregon State St. Louis Rams
4 103 Bryce Petty QB Baylor New York Jets
5 147 Brett Hundley QB UCLA Green Bay Packers
7 250 Trevor Siemian QB Northwestern Denver Broncos
2014 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 3 Blake Bortles QB Central Florida Jacksonville Jaguars
1 22 Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M Cleveland Browns
1 32 Teddy Bridgewater QB Louisville Minnesota Vikings
2 36 Derek Carr QB Fresno State Oakland Raiders
2 62 Jimmy Garoppolo QB Eastern Illinois New England Patriots
4 120 Logan Thomas QB Virginia Tech Arizona Cardinals
4 135 Tom Savage QB Pittsburgh Houston Texans
5 163 Aaron Murray QB Georgia Kansas City Chiefs
5 164 AJ McCarron QB Alabama Cincinnati Bengals
6 178 Zach Mettenberger QB LSU Tennessee Titans
6 183 David Fales QB San Jose State Chicago Bears
6 194 Keith Wenning QB Ball State Baltimore Ravens
6 213 Tajh Boyd QB Clemson New York Jets
6 214 Garrett Gilbert QB Southern Methodist St. Louis Rams
2013 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 16 EJ Manuel QB Florida State Buffalo Bills
2 39 Geno Smith QB West Virginia New York Jets
3 73 Mike Glennon QB North Carolina State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4 98 Matt Barkley QB USC Philadelphia Eagles
4 110 Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse New York Giants
4 112 Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas Oakland Raiders
4 115 Landry Jones QB Oklahoma Pittsburgh Steelers
7 221 Brad Sorensen QB Southern Utah San Diego Chargers
7 234 Zac Dysert QB Miami (Ohio) Denver Broncos
7 237 B.J. Daniels QB South Florida San Francisco 49ers
7 249 Sean Renfree QB Duke Atlanta Falcons
2012 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 Andrew Luck QB Stanford Indianapolis Colts
1 2 Robert Griffin QB Baylor Washington Redskins
1 8 Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M Miami Dolphins
1 22 Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State Cleveland Browns
2 57 Brock Osweiler QB Arizona State Denver Broncos
3 75 Russell Wilson QB Wisconsin Seattle Seahawks
3 88 Nick Foles QB Arizona Philadelphia Eagles
4 102 Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State Washington Redskins
6 185 Ryan Lindley QB San Diego State Arizona Cardinals
7 243 B.J. Coleman QB Tennessee-Chattanooga Green Bay Packers
7 253 Chandler Harnish QB Northern Illinois Indianapolis Colts
2011 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 Cam Newton QB Auburn Carolina Panthers
1 8 Jake Locker QB Washington Tennessee Titans
1 10 Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri Jacksonville Jaguars
1 12 Christian Ponder QB Florida State Minnesota Vikings
2 35 Andy Dalton QB Texas Christian Cincinnati Bengals
2 36 Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada-Reno San Francisco 49ers
3 74 Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas New England Patriots
5 135 Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa Kansas City Chiefs
5 152 T.J Yates QB North Carolina Houston Texans
5 160 Nathan Enderle QB Idaho Chicago Bears
6 180 Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech Baltimore Ravens
7 208 Greg McElroy QB Alabama New York Jets
2010 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma St. Louis Rams
1 25 Tim Tebow QB Florida Denver Broncos
2 48 Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame Carolina Panthers
3 85 Colt McCoy QB Texas Cleveland Browns
4 122 Mike Kafka QB Northwestern Philadelphia Eagles
5 155 John Skelton QB Fordham Arizona Cardinals
5 168 Jonathan Crompton QB Tennessee San Diego Chargers
6 176 Rusty Smith QB Florida Atlantic Tennessee Titans
6 181 Dan LeFevour QB Central Michigan Chicago Bears
6 199 Joe Webb QB Alabama-Birmingham Minnesota Vikings
6 204 Tony Pike QB Cincinnati Carolina Panthers
7 209 Levi Brown QB Troy Buffalo Bills
7 239 Sean Canfield QB Oregon State New Orleans Saints
7 250 Zac Robinson QB Oklahoma State New England Patriots
2009 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 Matthew Stafford QB Georgia Detroit Lions
1 5 Mark Sanchez QB USC New York Jets
1 17 Josh Freeman QB Kansas State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2 44 Pat White QB West Virginia Miami Dolphins
4 101 Stephen McGee QB Texas A&M Dallas Cowboys
5 151 Rhett Bomar QB Sam Houston State New York Giants
5 171 Nate Davis QB Ball State San Francisco 49ers
6 174 Tom Brandstater QB Fresno State Denver Broncos
6 178 Mike Teel QB Rutgers Seattle Seahawks
6 196 Keith Null QB West Texas A&M St. Louis Rams
6 201 Curtis Painter QB Purdue Indianapolis Colts
2008 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 3 Matt Ryan QB Boston College Atlanta Falcons
1 18 Joe Flacco QB Delaware Baltimore Ravens
2 56 Brian Brohm QB Louisville Green Bay Packers
2 57 Chad Henne QB Michigan Miami Dolphins
3 94 Kevin O'Connell QB San Diego State New England Patriots
5 137 John David Booty QB USC Minnesota Vikings
5 156 Dennis Dixon QB Oregon Pittsburgh Steelers
5 160 Josh Johnson QB San Diego Tampa Bay Buccaneers
5 162 Erik Ainge QB Tennessee New York Jets
6 186 Colt Brennan QB Hawaii Washington Redskins
6 198 Andre Woodson QB Kentucky New York Giants
7 209 Matt Flynn QB Louisiana State Green Bay Packers
7 223 Alex Brink QB Washington State Houston Texans
2007 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 JaMarcus Russell QB Louisiana State Oakland Raiders
1 22 Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame Cleveland Browns
2 36 Kevin Kolb QB Houston Philadelphia Eagles
2 40 John Beck QB Brigham Young Miami Dolphins
2 43 Drew Stanton QB Michigan State Detroit Lions
3 92 Trent Edwards QB Stanford Buffalo Bills
5 151 Jeff Rowe QB Nevada-Reno Cincinnati Bengals
5 174 Troy Smith QB Ohio State Baltimore Ravens
6 205 Jordan Palmer QB Texas-El Paso Washington Redskins
7 217 Tyler Thigpen QB Coastal Carolina Minnesota Vikings
2006 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 3 Vince Young QB Texas Tennessee Titans
1 10 Matt Leinart QB USC Arizona Cardinals
1 11 Jay Cutler QB Vanderbilt Denver Broncos
2 49 Kellen Clemens QB Oregon New York Jets
2 64 Tarvaris Jackson QB Alabama State Minnesota Vikings
3 81 Charlie Whitehurst QB Clemson San Diego Chargers
3 85 Brodie Croyle QB Alabama Kansas City Chiefs
5 148 Ingle Martin QB Furman Green Bay Packers
5 164 Omar Jacobs QB Bowling Green State Pittsburgh Steelers
6 194 Bruce Gradkowski QB Toledo Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7 223 D.J. Shockley QB Georgia Atlanta Falcons
2005 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 Alex Smith QB Utah San Francisco 49ers
1 24 Aaron Rodgers QB California Green Bay Packers
1 25 Jason Campbell QB Auburn Washington Redskins
3 67 Charlie Frye QB Akron Cleveland Browns
3 69 Andrew Walter QB Arizona State Oakland Raiders
3 85 David Greene QB Georgia Seattle Seahawks
4 106 Kyle Orton QB Purdue Chicago Bears
4 121 Stefan LeFors QB Louisville Carolina Panthers
5 145 Dan Orlovsky QB Connecticut Detroit Lions
5 152 Adrian McPherson QB Florida State New Orleans Saints
6 213 Derek Anderson QB Oregon State Baltimore Ravens
7 230 Matt Cassel QB USC New England Patriots
7 250 Ryan Fitzpatrick QB Harvard St. Louis Rams

If you hate Laurence, then don't listen - don't comment. When he co-hosts the B&B show, take that day off ... listen to an old podcast of a Bernstein solo show and jerk off all day.

Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

Best offensive lineman. If that's an overdraft at #3, trade back to a spot where drafting the best offensive lineman isn't an overdraft.

Everyone in the NFL is wet over Prescott this season, but the Cowboys spent three first round picks putting together a beastly offensive line.

LT- Tyron Smith #9 Pick 2011
C - Travis Frederick #31 Pick 2013
RG - Zach Martin #16 Pick 2014

Your RBs, WRs, and yes QBs, look lots better playing behind road graders.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

If they decide to not go QB with the top pick then lineman is always a good place to go.

A gutless choice is an O. linemen because it's the safest choice when you draft that high.
I prefer they look at the defensive backfield with that pick because the guy's they have now are not getting it done though these Ref's with their touchy calls are part of the problem in the NFL especially on PI calls.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

It's supposed to be a weak draft for OL with none having a top half of the first round grade

The flip side of your argument though is defensive lineman, which I would enthusiastically agree with picking. It is supposed to be a good draft for RB and TE on offense.

Getting a lineman is gutless? You realize both the D and O line are what make good teams.

I want a safety as much as anyone...but I am not sure any of them are worth a #3 pick. We definitely do not want to reach for a DB with the 3 pick.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

I notice Rick did not bold Matt Barkley.

A gutless choice is an O. linemen because it's the safest choice when you draft that high.
I prefer they look at the defensive backfield with that pick because the guy's they have now are not getting it done though these Ref's with their touchy calls are part of the problem in the NFL especially on PI calls.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.