One day Nas will get over Hillary Clinton's loss. Maybe.

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I used to watch his show fairly regularly years ago. Why do you inquire?

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Did WikiLeaks ever release that information that will get Hillary locked up or was the threat nothing but propaganda.

Yes the story wasn't accurate and the NYT eventually said that.

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He's probably the best Fox News has.

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I don't believe you're particularly liberal, but it is quite a departure for certain people to suddenly lean on a managing editor at Fox for support. It sort of goes along with the heretofore Marxists who have somehow become staunch nationalists united against the Russian threat. Kind of an upside down world.

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The uranium story I posted was definitely accurate. And I don't know that Wikileaks ever claimed Hillsry would be "locked up".

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I still am not sure if you read the CNN story. There is no CNN "synopsis" - CNN is reporting on a synopsis, not publishing one.




No one else touched the story previously because there was no story until late last week, if by "story" we mean the dossier being presented to Trump and Obama. CNN is bulletproof here.

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Lol.

So when Trump is impeached and hauled away in cuffs, how many days will you spend in the fetal position?

Trump is claiming it was never presented to him. Of course, it wouldn't surprise me if he were lying.

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None.

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Mistakes in its accounting.

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Certain people? Odd phrasing.

Sheppard Smith was quoted because he publicly commented on a subject being discussed on this board. He clearly has some level of understanding on the matter and also can't be dismissed as partisan. Knowing how hugely unbiased you are I'm guessing a Rachel Maddow thought wouldn't have met your scrupulously high standards.

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Do you make a habit of quoting a managing editor of Fox News? I don't believe you do. I know Nas doesn't. But suddenly that guy is the authority to whom you're appealing. That's what's odd.

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Some of JORR's points about guys not being able to recognize their biases with regard to media coverage of Trump are true (myself included), but on the other hand he's drawing a false equivalency between questionable reports from otherwise credible outlets and the guys who publish very popular stories about Hillary Clinton and John Podesta meeting up with Lucifer in the basement of a DC-area Fudruckers to plot a hostile takeover of the American government. It's stories of the latter type that were disproportionately soaked up by large swathes of Trump diehard fans.

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The point he's making is real conservative journalist and real liberal journalist are in agreement. #BipartisanAgreement

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I'm actually not drawing that equivalency but I do believe the line between is getting blurrier all the time.

https://youtu.be/-e7geD-uSWM

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Your reasoning is odd. I explained why I quoted him. Your immediate reaction was dismissive because it went against your narrative. Is there some unwritten rule that we can only quote from sources that match what you've deemed to be our ideological leanings? And for the record, I've never had a problem with Sheppard Smith. Believe it or not but it is possible for "certain people" to distinguish between individuals and their brethren.

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Baier is solid too but Smith is the best.

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Clapper setting the record straight by publicly calling Trump a liar.


http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/ ... sia-brief/

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Have you made a habit of quoting Jim Clapper previously? If not, I don't know why you would do so now.

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I don't think I have but I shared the story from the Washington Times so I could be fair and balanced.

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Baier is the guy who reported that Clinton's indictment was imminent. You guys are all over the place.

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That article doesn't say that Clapper called Trump a liar. Trump isn't saying he wasn't advised of the existence of the document. He's saying he was never shown the document. That article has a pro-Trump spin. The facts were leaked to CNN somehow. I'm sure Trump knows it didn't come from him. So U.S. intel is in a bad position. It appears that either A) they are an organization that cannot keep a secret, a pretty bad thing for an intelligence organization, or B) they purposely leaked the info, in which case Trump is right to be angry.

Here's the thing though. I have NO DOUBT that Trump might be lying. He lies all the time. But I also think it's ENTIRELY POSSIBLE that Clapper is lying. He also has a history of lying. He lied about spying on Americans. In fact, in his case I believe lying is part of his job description.

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You never quite had a problem with this leaking of information by U.S. intelligence however. I wonder why.

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=102961&start=210

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I've seen others, including that goof Robbie Mook, try to draw equivalence between the two situations. I'm not a fan of Comey, but he was in a position where he had advised Congress that his investigation was complete. Suddenly he had new information and he thought he needed to advise them that the investigation was being reopened. You seem to forget how Hillary partisans were cheering Comey and how Republicans were grumbling about him when he gave his first report and bent over backward in Clinton's direction.

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The first report had nothing to do with breaking protocol and this did. You are exhibiting bias also. You and others were cheering intelligence when this piece of non information was leaked and now you're bashing them. There also was a rush to judgment based on shoddy evidence.

Now you are saying that the media is wrong for reporting it and the intelligence community is bogus for leaking it. Intelligence chief denies being the source of the leak yet according to you he has to be lying.

Your views in both instances are inconsistent and hypocritical. Fact is if the media wanted to jam Trump they'd have leaked this stuff in the Summer right after he'd secured the nomination. People would not have cared if it were true or not. At the very least it would have created doubt in the minds of many

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/ ... index.html

If anyone wants to reread what CNN wrote.

Trump is almost certainly lying, even moreso is Reince Priebis(sp?) When he claims no knowledge of this memo stuff that has been common knowledge in certain circles and floating around for over 6 months.

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I don't think there really was protocol since I don't believe we had ever before had a major presidential candidate who was under investigation by the FBI. Protocol had to be invented.



I've never said any of those things. If your position is so strong you should be able to make an argument without mischaracterizing what I've said.

First, I don't think the media is ever wrong for reporting facts. But you know very well that reporting isn't simply a fact sheet. There's almost always an angle. People shop for the news they want to hear. You could read the same story in two different places and get two completely different ideas about what happened. Hillary started the "fake news" bullshit and now her supporters are angry because it's cutting the other way.

And I've seen various definitions of what constitutes "fake news" here. Nas suggests it's a story like "Hillary murders Foster". I agree. But I also don't think a news organization gets cover by reporting it like this, "Sources say Hillary murdered Foster. We don't know if it's true but some people are saying it is." That doesn't absolve it from being fake news.

And there are specific reasons intelligence agencies leak things. I like to believe they know what they are doing rather than thinking that they're just a bunch of big mouths. And I certainly never said Clapper "had to be lying". What I said was, he has a history of lying.



My views are, in fact, quite consistent. And my views on the media are completely unrelated to Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton. I don't believe anyone who has read your posts on these subjects could honestly say the same about you.

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