I don't think the Kings finish behind Phoenix, Lakers and Orlando... It's a good trade for the Kings, this draft is loaded. There will probably be 5 or 6 point guards drafted in the top 10 and a strong chance that the pick isn't protected.

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Ranadive gonna Ranadive.

I guess eventually I was bound to read someone who thought that.

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They shopped him and got what they got, he's going to be a FA in 14 months..what's the alternative? Keep him and get nothing in 14 months or get even less in 10 months for a 3 month rental?.

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Their own GM admitted they turned down a better offer than the one they accepted. I don't even need to say anything else.

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And other teams weren't even contacted about him being on the market.

If all that is true, they fucked up..I just think they will get a 4th or 5th overall pick and a second rounder..I'd take that deal for Jimmy Butler right now and he has an extra year of control on his deal and is no malcontent in the locker room.

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Getting a 4th or 5th overall pick? That's an odd way of saying their own pick will be higher because they are a worse team now.

All I can say is I'm glad you're not the Bulls GM currently

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Sacramento will have two top 6 picks this draft, one of the best drafts in years. The alternative is keep Cousins and win 40 games and keep spinning your tires in the mud. Pax doesn't have the balls or brains to trade Jimmy, the Bulls will never win dick under that clown.

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Nerlens Noel to Dallas

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huh

so does that mean Okafor doesn't get moved now ?

Maybe. Who knows with the Sixers. Okafor doesn't fit with Embiid.

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yea i know, but i thought the consensus was always that they'd move one of Noel/Okafor but not both

They only got a top 18 protected pick. WTF were the Bulls doing?

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And another Center! Bogut must be going somewhere else.

They'll trade him or buy him out.

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Sounds like they might need him to get to the salary floor. Someone may trade something for him.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas- ... rlens-noel

I do not get this trade at all. Was Noel just too injury prone?

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I don't either. Why didn't the Bulls make that deal? They've been talking long enough to know that he was available.

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gotta hang on to Denzel Valentine man...that's the future

The Sixers are the reason why I am hesitant to deal Jimmy Butler. Has there been any team that purposely bottomed-out that remerged to win a title in recent memory?

Celtics won by adding to Paul Pierce. Miami by adding to Dwayne Wade. If the Bulls could have gotten Okafor, it would have been the continuation of the Chicago homecoming story with Wade. It's something to sell. I have no idea what they are doing. Other than trying to dump Niko.

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I really don't understand the Valentine love.

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Cavs

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That gave them Irving, but adding LeBron through free agency I think disqualifies them from what he's talking about. That's not going to happen again. I would say the closest would be the Thunder when they got Durant and Westbrook.

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They got bad to get LeBron in 2003? They bottomed out because LeBron left them, but it was not on purpose.

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They also got Wiggins which turned into Kevin Love.

Just adding Lebron with no Irving or Love does not win that team a title.

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Right, but adding LeBron is also not going to be an option for any team bottoming out going forward. It's not a blueprint you would use like Ruffcorn was asking about.

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Successful teams in recent memory who built the team largely through the draft:

(Durant-led) OKC
Spurs
Pre-Durant Warriors
Howard-led Magic
Rose's Bulls
Indiana (successful-ish)


Successful teams in recent memory who won largely via free agent pickups/trades:

Celtics
Current Cavs team
Heat
Lakers (Gasol and Shaq)

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Wolves turned down Rubio for Rose straight up.

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