One time in Lake Geneva there must have been a bachelorette party -- at least I hope that was the excuse -- because out on the water there were girls on a giant inflatable penis raft. I mean, it was like a normal raft but with like a ten-foot dick coming off the bow at about one-o'-clock, gently bobbing on the water. I ain't no prude er nuthin' but I can't imagine the fine folks who live on the lake liked looking out on the water and seeing a big vinyl dick.

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That's sexual orientation based discrimination.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I don't even need him to have come back from the dead. If he was born of a virgin that's good enough for me.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

Well it says all that in a book so it must be true!

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who's idea was it to hire a bakery salesman who knew nothing about baked goods?

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

We just don't carry same sex toppers.

Look, I understand the point. But forcing someone to do particular work for someone they don't want to is also a problem. Frankly, I don't know why someone would want to buy a cake from an asshole who didn't want to make it for them.

I edited this to make clear what I mean. I don't think a bakery should be able to refuse service to a gay person because he is gay. But that isn't the same as being forced to create a particular item.

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He came in handy in other ways. You can never have too many retired mob enforcers on the payroll.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

Perhaps take some time to acquaint yourself with the actual definitions of "know/knowledge" and "belief", or "faith", if you like, including how they are mutually exclusive. I didn't think that was too nuanced a differentiation to point out, even for this board. That's where I made my error apparently.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I see that, but not as a SALESMAN.

Unless his line was ...Look, you are gonna buy these fucking zeppole, or else!

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

I didn't want the guy just hanging out in my office all day. He claimed he had a lot of connections downtown.

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Well acquainted with them.

Interesting that you chose to clarify the statement in this thread, but not where it originated.

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Sounds like the office of the family business I left behind.

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Well I assume it could be ordered.

If putting a cake topper on a cake is too traumatizing it may be time to find new work.

Your second paragraph is very dangerous. We have established that businesses operating in public need to behave in nondiscriminatory ways and that is great progress.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I love the religious threads on this board. JORR, if there were Muslims this obtuse posting here, they'd get the same treatment.

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I don't recall anyone questioning it in that thread ... perhaps b/c those that read it readily understood the point ... that could be a major reason.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Perhaps...

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Might I inquire if you see the differentiation, and thus the point I was making? To be fair I find it's considerably easier to make the point live and in person.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I bet that's what you tell all the little girls.

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I would mention that you didn't quite succeed in shoehorning that one in there, but then you'd probably just reverse the order of your post in response.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I think you missed my edit.

There's a difference between discriminating and being forced to create a product.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

We have relatives in Oak Park, and sometimes I take Harlem down from I-90 to get there. There is this Deli on Harlem, Riviera Italian, that always has two or three guys sitting out front on lawn chairs. Do you know those guys?

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No one is saying they have to create new products. They have to create equivalent products and they can't deny it because the only difference is sexual orientation.

If they don't like it then quit just like I'm sure some did when segregation ended.

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Rex and Nottoli are my two spots. Further north.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

Is George still involved at Nottoli?

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Nobody has answered Drakes question, what if it was a cake for a white pride~ supremecy cake?

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Is George the wrestler?

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But does anyone know those degos sitting on lawn chairs? That has to be a no work job or the protection squad.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I did. It could be denied based on it being a racist cake just like a bakery can deny a penis cake.

No one is saying you have to do everything a customer wants.

It also should be pointed out that being a racist isn't protected the same way sexual orientation is but that's not even needed to answer the question.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!