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I make that trade just to get rid of Rubio's contract.

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agreed

Shoulda called up the Bulls - they're looking for all the PGs they can find. Woulda taken Rubio for seven second round draft picks and then cut him in the off-season.

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Vegan your boy Ainge is blowing it. Got some Pax in him in his refusal to part with assets in exchange for a clearly superior player.

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Ainge is doing just fine - good now and positioned to do well in the future. Butler is the Mercedes in a parking lot filled with secondhand pogo sticks. Have fun with that.

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Good now and positioned to do well in the future was where Pax was from 2008-2010 and you still criticized him for failing to make a big move. If the Celtics can land George or Butler they could easily compete with the Cavs for the East this year and next. If they don't make those moves they won't stand a chance.

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Yeah but the reports are that Gar asked Ainge for core players on the Celtics. That's like Pax being asked to give up Rose in 2009 - of course you're not going to do that. Not Ainge's fault if he's working with dumbasses like the Bulls.

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Even Isaih Thomas isn't comparable to asking for Rose in 2009. Nobody on the Celts comes close. Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown certainly don't.

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you seem to be mocking the Celtics core, yet you think w/ the addition of Butler or George they could compete w/ the Cavs ?

They have a lot of good players. They don't have anybody who's close in value to 2009 Rose given his talent and potential and age at the time.

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i guess if you throw 'potential' in there....Thomas is having a hell of a year

i think they're caught in kind of a trick bag- i don't think if all they gave up was picks -i.e. roster is same today as it was yesterday, just w/ the addition of George or Butler- they could compete with the Cavs. I might have them winning 1 or 2 games in a 7 game series but that's about it. But then the other side if you're hoarding the picks, you're still going to be several years away while you're current core is getting older

Thomas is having an awesome year, but I think age and potential would still have Rose graded clearly higher. It's a moot point anyway since we are talking about giving up Crowder or Brown, not Thomas. We just disagree on how much Butler would help them. The two Nets picks and Brown or Crowder for Butler would be a good trade for both teams IMO. Like you said, if they don't use those Nets picks to get someone as good or better than Butler than they are basically waiting for a brand new window that may or may not even open.

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so you feel if they added Butler they would be a legit threat to the Cavs ?

I think you're missing some context here though. It's not the Celtics were only offering the Nets picks, it's that the picks themselves were apparently a non-starter for the Bulls. The kind of trade you're proposing would have been a best case scenario offer for the Bulls IMO, but GarPax wanted fewer picks and more core players to continue the neverending retooling process.

Yes. I think they would beat the Cavs but that largely depends on the health and play of Love and Bradley for each team.

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fair enough. agree to disagree

I guess so. I don't know how much I trust those reports. I know GarPax is incompetent and I believe Michael Reinsdorf is fully against rebuilding, but it's almost impossible to believe the Bulls wouldn't look at an offer of the two Nets picks plus one young player.

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