Well that was the most exciting Best Picture reveal ever.

How do you give them the wrong card?

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Yeah, Beatty looked confused the whole time, but his explanation sort of made sense as to why that was.

Awesome.

It doesn't make sense, though. He was saying he got the best actress girl card. But wouldn't all cards be different?

Wouldn't best picture simply say "Best picture" and the "Winner".

I think this was done on purpose by ABC just to create juice.

I'd have fun speculating about it, but by tomorrow morning I'm sure we'll know what exactly happened. The interesting thing is hearing how they figured it out. I'm guessing Beatty came back and showed the card to someone and they realized they got the wrong card. As I said he looked stumped up there and kinda passed it off to Dunaway to read it. I mean supposedly no one else would know who the winner is other the the Price Waterhouse Cooper guy.

I just don't get how they could have gotten the wrong card. Cuz all of the other cards had been opened. This was the last one. The last card.

This was done on purpose by ABC to get talk. To get buzz

Ding ding ding ding ding!

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I'd be surprised if it was for attention. I don't think Hollywood would want their 3 hour liberal anti-Trump showcase being overshadowed by a giant screw up at the end. Although they may enjoy the image of a bunch of white people getting something taken away and given to a mostly African American contingent.

Right. Now everybody is gonna tune in to Jimmy's show tomorrow (An ABC guy). I know I will. For the explanation. Huge ratings and then maybe a following.

They had 50 million watching tonight. They got people to go to Jimmy's show.

How do you explain that after all the other cards were opened, they got a wrong card? If 49 out of 50 cards are opened, you can't get the wrong card!!!!

Oscars should be in the THE DOUCHEBAG OF THE WEEK thread.

Funny how Hollywood fucks up anything related to African Americans even when they award them an Oscar. How fucking humiliating. I feel bad for the cast. They were robbed of their 'Oscar Moment'.


You know Trump is loving this. Next tweet from Trump "Hollywood........Losers".

I'm sure they have multiples of the same card just in case.

This is a conspired event. Doesn't hurt anybody. But that's what it was.

If nothing else, it takes the attention off dumb ass Trump for 24-48 hours. Maybe that was ABC's goal.

If I was Trump's people I'd be jumping on this opportunity. Trump : SEE I TOLD YOU THESE HOLLYWOOD PEOPLE ARE DEGENERATE F UPs!

you know, talking about "how Hollywood fucks up anything related to African Americans even when they award them an Oscar" i had a little anecdote happen at this rap show i went to tonight that speaks to this general sentiment here.

i happened to be one of only ~3 white people attending the show, and one of the other ones was this photographer dude who i called "Triforce" (it was either that or "Hyrule") rockin a legend of zelda hat+shirt combo as he was legit "doing his thing" with the photography steez. at one point i had just came back in from having a cigarette outside and i ended up settling in on the left side of the stage by a corner of the bar+wall where they had a L shaped couch getup that had a few "cool lookin balck guys" [one guy was rockin sunglasses indoors with a sharp looking black-clothing ensemble, another dude with a knit cap and big ol headphones around his neck, you know, basically people waiting around to perform later**] chillin there all vibin out to the music and whatnot. when triforce noticed that i had just came back in he gets all up in my face [non-threatening / more-performance] and is like "DUDE WHAT THE FUCK?!?! DON'T YOU KNOW I'M SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONLY WHITE DUDE HERE?!? *POINTS TO THE EXIT* YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE RIGHT NOW CUZ THIS IS MY JOINT TONIGHT!!!"

...and then he kinda looked around at all the different black ppl kinda half-mugging for laughter, lamentably getting none at all

he quickly recovered and started bullshitting with me, ending in one of those high five + handshake + shoulder-bump combos and then did a little ~33% ironic [over]dancing to the hip hop music and moved on to go take pictures from different angles. so after he goes i just kinda turn to everyone in the corner and go "hey i don't mean any disrespect or anything, but i think it's safe to say that guy's trying too hard, right?!" -- everyone immediately broke out in laughter cuz i mean.... dude was a nice guy who i prolly ended up having ~5-10 little mini-conversations with as you're doing your thing putzing around a hip hop show and hey, out of nowhere at one point he just up and hands me a freshly cracked "Indian Pale Ale IPA" so that's some good looking out, his heart is definitely in the right place...

BUT

you almost kinda wanted to go up to him and be like "hey man you know when you come to a show like this and you're one of only ~3 white people here you probably want to be on your best behavior because your actions might end up reflecting negatively on white people to all the black people here. you know, you don't want them to see you actin the fool a little bit too much and thinking all of us white people are always actin like that all the time, you know what i'm saying? it's a minority thing!" (- an excerpt from my upcoming novel, a contemporary remake/reboot of "Black Like Me" =)

AHEM. but yeah, you know, i think what the oscars are trying to do with balck ppl is pretty much akin to my guy Triforce was tryin to do with balck ppl tonight; really, man, even tho we're pretty damn sure that your heart *is* genuinely in the right place, still, just stop trying so damn hard, you know what i'm saying?!

* mic drop *

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i feel bad that jimmy's Oscars will be known for The Flub more than anything else. He did a great job and made it an entertaining show. The funny thing is they could've just remanufactured the cards from the Golden Globes. Actor, Director and Picture were all the same.

and I feel bad for "Moonlight" a little bit because I think people will still, for some reason, think that "La La Land" won.

straight; didn't watch

The Walking Dead was a good episode

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

They're probably thanking their lucky stars it didn't go the other way (announcing Moonlight prematurely).

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Interesting, each side of the stage has a complete set of winning envelopes cards.. so that explains how beatty was given the wrong one...

Doesn't excuse Beatty as he still essentially pulled a Ron Burgundy reading whatever the prompter says

Beatty didn't read the wrong movie.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You are right, he is 100% innocent in this situation, thank you for correcting me

Double post

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good point. they'd have to way to redeem themselves either.

i give props to jordan horowitz, "La La Land"'s producer. he was the one who made the big stink on stage about it, and made sure it was made right. he could've pocketed it and not said anything, i guess. but he made sure "moonlight" was given its due.

and i don't believe at all that this was some conspiracy by ABC, but i am sure they loved the fuck up.

Probably the only thing worse that could have happened is if the reverse had happened and they called the black people on first and then kicked them off the stage and gave the award to La La Land. Warren Beatty would have been called a racist.

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