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leashyourkids

Post subject: Re: Shaq/Javale McGee Feud

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:37 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

I gotta side with FF on this one. We all know what is meant when someone is called a "great athlete". Pretending otherwise is being obtuse. Mark Grace was a skilled hitter but even he would admit to being a middling athlete.

Well, in that case the greatest athletes are clearly going to be soccer and basketball players. Not fat football players that run 5 yards at a time and then rest for a minute.

Correct. If we want to go with the approach that athleticism is just raw size, speed, and jumping ability, then NBA players are the best athletes, hands down. Half the field in football is just the lines who run into each other over and over.

NFL linemen have athleticism, but it's nowhere close to the freaks that play basketball.

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Post subject: Re: Shaq/Javale McGee Feud

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:40 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

then NBA players are the best athletes, hands down.

#truth

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Tad Queasy

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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:31 pm

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Will FF, Leash, BRick, and JORR all be at Lakemoorfest this year? I just want to have a few beers and observe you guys interacting with each other for awhile before IMU's musical selections make everyone mad and I see Frank in the nude.

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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:32 pm

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Tad Queasy wrote:

I'll be there.

Edit: I'll try not to get a group together to threaten to tip over your car this year.

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Post subject: Re: Shaq/Javale McGee Feud

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:54 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

Here you go, FF. This is only ten players, seven if you exclude the QBs. Regardless, this proves the NBA has a higher ceiling when it comes to physical traits than the NFL does. You can make it in the NFL if you have some basic athletic ability, intelligence, and a good system around you. In the NBA you need height and/or above average athleticism. I've got more players to point to but this is only the tip of the iceberg. This would never happen in the NBA:

http://www.foxsports.com/southwest/gall ... ory-040716

I think you are missing some nuance here though. The NFL has shorter careers and massive player turnover. There are more chances for that one or two guys who everyone thought was bad to become a good to great player. There may be a Wes Welker type out there that simply never got the chance because there just wasn't enough spots available.

Are you saying there is a Wes Welker type in the NBA that hasn't emerged yet because there just aren't enough spots available?

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Post subject: Re: Shaq/Javale McGee Feud

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:59 pm

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Wouldn't swimmers and track n field stars trump basketball n soccer players?

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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:51 am

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veganfan21 wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

Are you saying there is a Wes Welker type in the NBA that hasn't emerged yet because there just aren't enough spots available?

Obviously it is all hypothetical but the opportunity in the NFL is so much larger because of the larger roster sizes and the huge amount of injuries that give players a chance. I think it is telling in the NBA that so many second round picks have trouble even making the active roster and some don't even make the team. Now, they also draft Europeans who have no chance of being with the team for a few years and a ton of those guys never make it here either. It's going to be really hard for an undrafted player to get in when there are so many higher rated guys who can't even get in.

Even a guy like my guy E'twuan Moore was very close to being out of the league and heading to Europe and he was drafted.

If the NBA had the same injury rate as the NFL then we'd see a lot of these undrafted guys getting a shot too. The odds are that a few of them will end up proving they belong.

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