The idea here isn't horrible. Glennon may actually be a good option for the right price given just how dysfunctional his previous organization was. If the decision is truly that "no quarterback is worth picking with the third pick in the draft" then you are pretty much rolling the dice with a fairly large failure rate in any round. It's compounded if you miss out on a quarterback in the second round.

It's possible that even by the second round pick the Bears have the Bears will be drafting the fourth best quarterback in the draft in a draft when people are falling all over themselves to say that there are no quarterbacks worth taking with a high pick. If they draft a quarterback in the third round they have such a low chance of success that we would be lucky if they become a starter for more than a few years.

You don't overpay besides offering incentives and you basically are giving him a shot to prove himself and if not you are in the same position next year and you can go out and get a potential franchise quarterback.

I think that is the thing that most aren't taking into account here. A third round quarterback is not a reliable answer to the future of the position. You can get lucky but almost all of them end up as backup material at best. If there is a run on quarterbacks in the first round after you pass on one at #3 you could really have no future and basically a year of waiting for the next qb to be drafted and then people will say next year "NO QUARTERBACK IS WORTH A FIRST ROUND PICK. LET'S GET A SAFETY WHO IS ONLY KNOWN BECAUSE HE RETURNED KICKS!".

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Kizer should be there. I think he has the potential to be the best QB of the group.

The truth is, if you are picking a QB at #3 in the second round, you are better to trade up to the end of the first round in order to get the fifth year of control. I think that brings Mahomes back in to play.

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Glennon isn't the future though. You're paying a guy more than Cutler to be a bridge to the future. Why not keep Barkley or Hoyer and invest in other positions?

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The general idea is that there is a chance that Glennon is better than he showed with that mess of an organization. I wouldn't bet money on it but I'm not betting money on any third round quarterback pick either or if we end up with the fifth best quarterback in the draft because there is a run on them.

Worst case scenario is we learn Glennon isn't good and we get to draft a quarterback in the first round next year.

It all comes down to the decision that drafting a quarterback with the third pick is not the right choice. This makes all options questionable at best.

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With the #3 pick and no quarterbacks with a first round grade according to many scouts it quite a risk to overdraft one given the failure rate of the position. With the third pick of the second round they might be able to trade up into the first to get one of the guys.

Is it weird that I don't like Kizer because Mulligan is all over him, and I can't remember the last time Mulligan said anything relevant about football. He broke the story that Fangio was leaving. Then it didn't happen.

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It can be a big risk. People can't even come up with an obvious choice at #3 this year though. However, I understand if there really is no quarterback available that wouldn't be a major reach and not doing it. He may prove me wrong but I can't imagine that a team wins the Super Bowl because they get Peppers.

It still changes all of the reasoning on who you want and makes the Glennon stuff more palatable. If this is really a weak qb class then why should we expect a second round pick, who is probably the third or fourth best option this year, to be a franchise quarterback either?

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Why? Jay is due 12.5 and another 2.5 for roster bonus, you want that turd for 15 million to play 9 games and play poorly, get hurt and he can't mentor a young QB he has no value.

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what a disaster. the most important position on the field by a factor of 10. you need to be on the hunt for your next QB 365 days/year, not at the last minute when you realize you don't have one anymore.

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I have not seen Peppers to the Bears. I've seen Allen and Adams. Adams is the top guy on some team's board. He's been called a 10-year position solver. I would like to try that rather than draft a quarterback at 3, when most of the scouts do not have first round grades on any of them. If Pace can trade for someone he thinks will be great or acquire assets for the future that would work too.

As to the subject of this thread, I don't see how signing a "game manager" type does anything other than try to get Fox in the playoffs.

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I agree with GD on Kizer. Hope they get him.

Both Hub and Mulligan think Kizer is the most NFL ready of the QBs in this draft. Jim Miller thinks he is one of the least NFL ready. I generally don't put much stock in the opinions of Hub or Mulligan but haven't heard a whole lot of Jim Miller, although he did spend quite a bit of time with these guys at the combine and someplace else, I think. Does Miller seem like a good judge of talent?

Dan Durkin is also high on Kizer

I'd say that is an over exaggeration. There are some people doubting the strength of the qb class but those mock drafts are still having multiple quarterbacks going in the first round.

The idea is to give him a chance to prove he isn't a "game manager". He's played 21 games in his career for an organization that was a mess. When you take into account what you are saying which is basically that there aren't really any good quarterbacks in this draft, and you can give Glennon a short term deal and let him prove himself AND keep that pick instead of overdrafting in the first or second or third round it at least makes some sense.

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Also you take Solomon Thomas before you take Jonathan Allen. Thomas might not even be there at #3 now.

So if the Bears draft Chad Kelly at #3 he has a better chance of succeeding than if the Bears drafted him in the 7th round? Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit. Why do people let Brick get away with spouting retarded nonsense all the time?

The would-be NFL MVP this year (until the injuries) was a 2nd round QB drafted by the Raiders, who until about 8 months ago were tied with the Browns in long-term futility. The Seahawks found Russell Wilson in the 3rd round the same year they acquired Matt Flynn. Cousins (who isn't great but goddamnit I'd gladly take him) was taken as insurance the same year the Redskins, another disaster of a franchise, drafted Robert Griffin.

This isn't the New England the Bears are trying to replicate, its Washington and Oakland. Could signing Glennon and drafting a QB in R2 or R3 fail anyways? Yes. So could drafting Watson or Kizer at #3. But you'd have a hell of time convincing me after the likes of Gabbert, Tannehill, Locker, Bortles etc. being draft in the top 10 that the Bears odds are better either way.

b/c it's not worth arguing with him.

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What? If you are going to throw stones don't be so completely off that it cannot even be responded to. That is not anywhere close to what I was saying.

The start of the second round has some success you can at least consider with a realistic chance of success. The third round and later is almost all quarterbacks who do nothing more than become decent backups or fringe starters at best. There are exceptions to that rule but they come around roughly once every 5 years past the second round with the first round having a large majority of the quarterbacks you actually would be happy with having as your quarterback.

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I'll keep that in mind the next time you call me a bigot.

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You didn't back away from your assertion and neither did I!

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Am I crazy or do the Bears have a high second round pick?

So you are so off on your statement and you then return with this?

I've said all along the second round pick could work out well assuming there isn't a run on quarterbacks in the first round and early second. The odds are still much higher in drafting a quarterback higher that he will be good to great.

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I feel sorry for you if you can't handle discussion that doesn't fit with your world view.

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I can handle any discussion. What do you want to talk about? How I do a disservice to my children by raising them Catholic? The floor is all yours.

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I thought it was not worth arguing with me, and yet, here you are!

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That's pretty much the truth. I wouldn't expect any quarterback drafted after the second round to surpass his career and most in the second round won't either but at least there is some pattern of success you can reliably point to.

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Silver lining would be that Fox, Pace and hopefully Phillips would be launched if Glennon turned out to be terrible and the Bears went 3-13 again.

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I dont think kizer or mahomes are there in 2nd round but it would be great if they are. Kizer at the end of 1st or top of 2nd would be perfect.

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Or..........they sign Glennon, draft Solomon or Adams at #3 then take a QB in the high second round and everything is fine (or as fine as everything can be). That's according to you.