This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

You can find all stars after 11 too. It doesn't mean you should expect it.

I'm not saying McDermott is a great pick if he is just a contributor. It's just what you should expect. It's where the bar is set. So many picks of 10+ end up being busts that you can't call it a bad pick if you happen to get a guy who contributes to your team. That is why it is unrealistic to expect a starter at 11. You certainly hope you get one but the history of picks at that point in the draft indicates you are beating the odds if you get one, and even if you do, it's most likely just a guy who still has some flaws in his game. The fact remains when McDermott was drafted people on this board not all but a sizable majority were lauding the pick. He is a disappointment at this point. I don't know if he has played much tonight I doubt that he has. His minutes are decreasing by the game. He is playing behind a journeyman small forward. He was thought of as a guy the Bulls had to have. They traded two top 20 picks to acquire him. Is it also unrealistic to believe that the two picks used to acquire him will be contributing players? I didn't hear many talking about him merely being a contributing player when he was drafted. As a matter of every player that he was compared to was a starter a nd when people compared him to Korver the pro McDermott cried bloody murder. Now you are basically saying that we should be happy if he is Kyle Korver. Who you crapping

You said you should "expect a starter with the 11th pick". This is false. Most picks 11+ do not end up being starters. Some do, and I'm sure you'll cite the Dallas Mavericks or something with a meaningless count of where they were drafted but it still doesn't change the fact that the odds of finding a starter at pick 11 or later is not that high. Even with the years you chose, we ended up with about 7 starters coming out of 20+ picks(depending on if you were counting second round picks).

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

You can find all stars after 11 too. It doesn't mean you should expect it.

I'm not saying McDermott is a great pick if he is just a contributor. It's just what you should expect. It's where the bar is set. So many picks of 10+ end up being busts that you can't call it a bad pick if you happen to get a guy who contributes to your team. That is why it is unrealistic to expect a starter at 11. You certainly hope you get one but the history of picks at that point in the draft indicates you are beating the odds if you get one, and even if you do, it's most likely just a guy who still has some flaws in his game. The fact remains when McDermott was drafted people on this board not all but a sizable majority were lauding the pick. He is a disappointment at this point. I don't know if he has played much tonight I doubt that he has. His minutes are decreasing by the game. He is playing behind a journeyman small forward. He was thought of as a guy the Bulls had to have. They traded two top 20 picks to acquire him. Is it also unrealistic to believe that the two picks used to acquire him will be contributing players? I didn't hear many talking about him merely being a contributing player when he was drafted. As a matter of every player that he was compared to was a starter a nd when people compared him to Korver the pro McDermott cried bloody murder. Now you are basically saying that we should be happy if he is Kyle Korver. Who you crapping

You said you should "expect a starter with the 11th pick". This is false. Most picks 11+ do not end up being starters. Some do, and I'm sure you'll cite the Dallas Mavericks or something with a meaningless count of where they were drafted but it still doesn't change the fact that the odds of finding a starter at pick 11 or later is not that high. Even with the years you chose, we ended up with about 7 starters coming out of 20+ picks(depending on if you were counting second round picks).

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

You can find all stars after 11 too. It doesn't mean you should expect it.

I'm not saying McDermott is a great pick if he is just a contributor. It's just what you should expect. It's where the bar is set. So many picks of 10+ end up being busts that you can't call it a bad pick if you happen to get a guy who contributes to your team. That is why it is unrealistic to expect a starter at 11. You certainly hope you get one but the history of picks at that point in the draft indicates you are beating the odds if you get one, and even if you do, it's most likely just a guy who still has some flaws in his game. The fact remains when McDermott was drafted people on this board not all but a sizable majority were lauding the pick. He is a disappointment at this point. I don't know if he has played much tonight I doubt that he has. His minutes are decreasing by the game. He is playing behind a journeyman small forward. He was thought of as a guy the Bulls had to have. They traded two top 20 picks to acquire him. Is it also unrealistic to believe that the two picks used to acquire him will be contributing players? I didn't hear many talking about him merely being a contributing player when he was drafted. As a matter of every player that he was compared to was a starter a nd when people compared him to Korver the pro McDermott cried bloody murder. Now you are basically saying that we should be happy if he is Kyle Korver. Who you crapping

You said you should "expect a starter with the 11th pick". This is false. Most picks 11+ do not end up being starters. Some do, and I'm sure you'll cite the Dallas Mavericks or something with a meaningless count of where they were drafted but it still doesn't change the fact that the odds of finding a starter at pick 11 or later is not that high. Even with the years you chose, we ended up with about 7 starters coming out of 20+ picks(depending on if you were counting second round picks).

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

You can find all stars after 11 too. It doesn't mean you should expect it.

I'm not saying McDermott is a great pick if he is just a contributor. It's just what you should expect. It's where the bar is set. So many picks of 10+ end up being busts that you can't call it a bad pick if you happen to get a guy who contributes to your team. That is why it is unrealistic to expect a starter at 11. You certainly hope you get one but the history of picks at that point in the draft indicates you are beating the odds if you get one, and even if you do, it's most likely just a guy who still has some flaws in his game.


The fact remains when McDermott was drafted people on this board not all but a sizable majority were lauding the pick. He is a disappointment at this point. I don't know if he has played much tonight I doubt that he has. His minutes are decreasing by the game. He is playing behind a journeyman small forward. He was thought of as a guy the Bulls had to have. They traded two top 20 picks to acquire him. Is it also unrealistic to believe that the two picks used to acquire him will be contributing players? I didn't hear many talking about him merely being a contributing player when he was drafted. As a matter of every player that he was compared to was a starter a nd when people compared him to Korver the pro McDermott cried bloody murder. Now you are basically saying that we should be happy if he is Kyle Korver. Who you crapping

You said you should "expect a starter with the 11th pick". This is false. Most picks 11+ do not end up being starters. Some do, and I'm sure you'll cite the Dallas Mavericks or something with a meaningless count of where they were drafted but it still doesn't change the fact that the odds of finding a starter at pick 11 or later is not that high. Even with the years you chose, we ended up with about 7 starters coming out of 20+ picks(depending on if you were counting second round picks).

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Jesus Long Time Guy is a cross between Sini and Chus...

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

My post got jumbled up with his and it screwed me up. I didn't think it submitted. I'm actually making solid points. McDermott has been a disappointment. There is no way around that.

It's hard to tell if you're making solid points . All I see is the same one repeated ad nauseum.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

McDermott owns one single sport coat. JORR would not approve.

If you really want to get ridiculous Larry Legend could be his ceiling. I'll stick to Paul Pierce for now.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

This guy's floor is Wally Szczerbiak IMO.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

This thread is really something. Poor Nas.

Doug McDermott will be Jud Buechler, without the volleyball career to fall back on.

This thread is really something. Poor Nas.