Predate sounds good but the truth is that he was beset by injuries last season. He had to do a lot of crazy shit. This year isn't the case unless he is being ordered to do it. You can't just start throwing guys in the way that he does and expect to win. Payne looks awful as a point guard. Terrible shot selection and vision.

They need to move Butler. The Bulls will never go anywhere with him as 1st or 2nd option. If you are a top 10 guy then you don't have the string of clunkers that he has had over the past month.

That isn't on Hoiberg.

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Predate sounds good but the truth is that he was beset by injuries last season. He had to do a lot of crazy shit. This year isn't the case unless he is being ordered to do it. You can't just start throwing guys in the way that he does and expect to win. Payne looks awful as a point guard. Terrible shot selection and vision.

They need to move Butler. The Bulls will never go anywhere with him as 1st or 2nd option. If you are a top 10 guy then you don't have the string of clunkers that he has had over the past month.

That isn't on Hoiberg.

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Though I blamed Gar above, I disagree with any framing that seems to absolve Paxson of responsibility for this mess. I've long said that he's co-signed everything Gar's been doing, can't be bothered to stop it, or is useless to stop it. And for all the credit he gets for leading a "successful rebuild," note that he'd be remembered much differently if he hadn't lucked into Rose after the 2007-2008 team sputtered out. He needs to go as much as Fred and Gar.

Could it be his heel is not fully recovered? Because his string of "clunkers" go back to the time of his injury....does your hate for him cloud your thinking that much

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Not to mention he hired Gar, he could veto anything he didn't agree with. He was just too much of a pussy to face the media so he hired Gar to be the fall guy.

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excuses are for cowards and losers. He is moving ok to me and it still hasn't stopped him from ball hogging.

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quoting some of Ditka...the original coward and loser....who would you suggest Butler be sharing the ball with?

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

He should step aside and allow Rondo to run the offense. I'm convinced that Butler the snake is reason that Rondo isn't in the starting lineup. Remember or not, that it was Butler who told Hoiberg that he should run point last season. Look at whose running point for the Bulls now? You can have all of the Butler love that you desire but get used to losing if he is the "guy".

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Leader in touches PG Rondo?

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

i'm sure the offense would be running a lot smoother with the guy who dribbles the ball into the ground for 22 seconds of the 24 and can't shoot

There isn't a player on the Bulls who gets guys looks like Rondo. How many times do you have to see Butler call for the high screen roll before you become convinced that he shouldn't dominate the ball like he does? when he isn't doing it Wade does it. This isn't Batman and Robin. This shit is like the Green Hornet and Kato.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I've never understood why the guy can't shoot straight...he has a decent looking shot. A guy like Horford shoots the way he does and clips a decent percentage, even from three.

At this point, why would you want someone competent running the team anyway? The Bulls would be best served to throw Cannon in there and lose the rest of the way.

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Since the Bulls seem to think they can re-build and compete for the playoffs at the same time, as much as Rondo has been a benefit to the 2nd unit, why not put him back in the starting unit with Butler, Wade, Lopez and whatever PF they prefer for and just settle on getting their best players the most minutes? They may not want to admit it, but none of these PG's (Cannon,Grant, Payne, etc.) are starting caliber, much less 2nd string. If the goal of making the playoffs super-cedes the development of any of these players, Rondo should get significant minutes (35+) until they are eliminated from the playoffs.

I'd probably rather just play Mirotic as well, if the goal is the playoffs. Portis isn't an NBA player. That's not to say Mirotic is playing well, and not horribly, but, in my view, he's better than Portis.

Paul Zipser, Miroric, Valentine and one of the backup PG's should round out a 9 man rotation.

....for a NBDL team

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When Paul is standing outside the 3 point line,Stacy King should yell out:

"Hey, Your Zipser is open!"

They can sale T-shirts and make a mint.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Perhaps, but, in my opinion, you have to cut the rotation and stop playing 10-12 guys each night. Get it down to who your best players are and make your best attempt at a run. They probably do want to make the playoffs and develop some of the youth at the same time, which rarely works out, but, if given that path, I think the option is to pare it down and play the best from the worst from there.

When you bring in a first time head coach and ask him to coach a veteran team it's a good idea to surround him with quality NBA assistants.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

honestly, it doesn't matter what they do. make a run to get swept in the 1st round?...sure, go for it. Play all the young players that are awful ? I guess. just throw some warm bodies out there each night and pray the season ends as quickly as possible , that's really all you can do

I don't think Paxson has. They both have different visions for the direction that the team should go in.

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GO BEARS!!!

That sounds like something King would actually say.

I hate Stacey King.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

The mere fact that Paxson thinks that the Bulls should blow it up (or at least has seen fit to leak to his buddies in his press that he thinks they should blow it up so as not to be blamed) does not mean that he should stick around by default. He played an active role in creating the need for the team to be blown up. The actual rebuilding process should be in the hands of someone who's not a proven failure like him.

His only handpicked guy is Jim Boylen.

I can't believe he was clamoring for Pete Myers assistance and we all know why Randy Brown is on that bench.

He was set up to fail.

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I disagree. When Paxson was in charge the Bulls were competing for a championship every year and drafted well.

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GO BEARS!!!

I agree that he was hamstrung, but why though? And why dole out a 5 year deal if that's your mindset?

That's really the worst part of the whole deal. Giving a 5 year deal to a first time coach is ludicrous. No other pro team was even interested in bringing him in, so the Bulls were just bidding against themselves. Hoiberg wasn't even ever an assistant at the pro level.

A first time coach should get a 3 year deal so you can easily cut him loose in 2 seasons if he's not working. Jerry is not going to eat the 3 remaining years of this contract.

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This.

Who were you even bidding against?

Stupid.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

What about Mike Wilhelm? Wasn't he with him at Iowa State

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.