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Teddy Greenstein talks about Mike North and the Score offering him a new contract in today's Tribune.

It is so obvious that Mike North is so desperate. Stop with the A-Rod analogy you big doofus.

He says that it is hard to compete against Mike and Mike because they areESPN guys and they are simulcasted on ESPN2. Mike & Mike were beating North in the ratings big time, before they were ever simulcasted on TV. Furthermore, WSCR's Mike Murphy always beat Dan Patrick head-to-head, and he now beats Mike Tirico. Nor does he explain why Waddle and Silvy beat him. North is a complete joke and his show is even more of a clusterfuck.
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Mike North, WSCR The Score talking contract
By Teddy Greenstein

The other day Mike North and his WSCR-AM 670 morning crew batted around names such as Keith Van Horn, Cliff Robinson and Bryant "Big Country" Reeves.

They all are NBA legends, because they parlayed modest talent into hilarious sums of money.

"Remember Cliff Robinson? Get me how much he made in his career!" North barked. "How about Keith Van Horn? He made $112 million? That is unbelievable!"

Equally unbelievable to some in Chicago sports radio is that North, whose contract expires at the end of July, would return to the Score for anything close to the $1.5 million a year he currently commands.

They point to his lackluster ratings and the trend of Chicago radio personalities (Mancow Muller, "Crazy" Howard McGee) breaking up with their suddenly cost-conscious stations.

Two officials guessed that if North were to return to mornings at the Score, he would be paid no more than $400,000.

"Are these the same dopes who thought I could never get $1.5 [million] a year -- and $700,000 a year before that?" North said by telephone. "They don't know how I negotiate or the dynamics between me and the station.

"Here's what I know: I'm an earner, I make money for the company I work for. There are no complaints from their side."

To that end, North said he has been offered a contract to return as the Score's morning host.

North wouldn't divulge details of the offer, but a source close to the negotiations estimated it at between $850,000 and $1 million per year plus ratings bonuses.

"They've made me a generous offer, a nice offer," North said. "I'm also checking out any other options I may have. That's what a good businessman does."

The offer came after North met Rod Zimmerman, senior vice president for CBS Radio Chicago, three weeks ago at Lucky Strike Lanes, near the Score's downtown studios.

"He beat me once, I beat him once," North reported. "We sat down afterward and did some talking. I believe I'm OK as a talk-show host, but I think I'm a better businessman."

Zimmerman wouldn't discuss the offer but said: "There have been proposals back and forth. ... We are talking with Mike privately and hope this relationship will continue."

North, a Score original who began with the station in 1992, might rate well with his bosses, but the fall ratings book was unkind to him. Among men 25-54, WMVP-AM 1000's "Mike and Mike in the Morning" earned a 5.4, compared with North's 3.1.

Though the gap closed from 8-9 a.m. (4.7-3.6), WMVP's late-morning "Waddle and Silvy" show poured it on from 9-10 a.m. Tom Waddle and Mark Silverman earned a 3.9 to North's 2.2.

"People get hung up on ratings," North said. "It is a scoreboard, but it's also not a level playing field, so they don't matter to me."

North has complained that it's difficult to compete with the behemoth that is ESPN and its nationally syndicated "Mike and Mike" show. While Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic are simulcast on ESPN2, North doesn't get much marketing help.

Others take the opposite view, wondering how a Chicago-based show can lose in Chicago -- even during a crummy Bears season.

North, 55, compared himself to the Cubs, historically a loser that crushes competitors at the gate. But the better analogy might be Alex Rodriguez, who's as well-known for his contracts as he is for his stats.

If Rodriguez were traded to Tampa Bay and hit .265, fans would laugh at him. But if his presence sold another 500,000 tickets, owners would love him.

North's advocates say he generates great publicity for the Score -- remember the "Shut the ... up" Ozzie Guillen interview last May? -- and has developed a cadre of loyal sponsors.

North knows the Score reported revenues of nearly $22 million in 2007 to rank a solid eighth among 29 stations in the market.

"You hear people say: 'Radio's changing,'" he said. "In what way? The [advertising] rates aren't changing."

Still, North knows he might have to take a pay cut and dip below seven figures. It's not Van Horn money, but it'll be enough to pay for the mustard on his hot dog.

"I come from a blue-collar family, and my dad worked 80 hours a week as an electrician," he said. "On his deathbed [in 1995] he asked me how much I made and I couldn't tell him, I was too embarrassed. I just told him: 'The family will be taken care of.'"

Source: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi- ... 880.column


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"Are these the same dopes who thought I could never get $1.5 [million] a year -- and $700,000 a year before that?" North said by telephone. "They don't know how I negotiate or the dynamics between me and the station.


For a guy who alway said "he doesnt talk about what he makes" he sure has changed his tune.

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"Are these the same dopes who thought I could never get $1.5 [million] a year -- and $700,000 a year before that?" North said by telephone. "They don't know how I negotiate or the dynamics between me and the station.


Yes, those "dopes" were wrong about you getting it, but they were not wrong about if you were worth it, that has been clearly obvious for a long time.


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"Here's what I know: I'm an earner, I make money for the company I work for. There are no complaints from their side."


Good, he is a earner, well put him the sales department and let him run that end of the business, since he is so good at bringing in money.


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"People get hung up on ratings," North said. "It is a scoreboard, but it's also not a level playing field, so they don't matter to me."


Lol....please.


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"I come from a blue-collar family, and my dad worked 80 hours a week as an electrician," he said. "On his deathbed [in 1995] he asked me how much I made and I couldn't tell him, I was too embarrassed. I just told him: 'The family will be taken care of.'"


Wow, the levels one will sink to score new paper, again, Mike is just trying to keep the family above water, him, his wife and his mom, welcome to the club dickhead.


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He's told this story hundreds of times about his dying dad -
"I come from a blue-collar family, and my dad worked 80 hours a week as an electrician," he said. "On his deathbed [in 1995] he asked me how much I made and I couldn't tell him, I was too embarrassed. I just told him: 'The family will be taken care of.'" -
What a tool, using his dying dad as a permament anecdote.


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I believe I'm OK as a talk-show host, but I think I'm a better businessman."



:lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:
My favorite quote. maybe he should be a businessman instead of a radio host then.

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I love his take on "numbers". He tries to downgrade the ratings system then turns around and tries to take a majority of the credit for the ad-revenue ratings.
If his viewership numbers are decreasing, how does that help revenue streams? If I'm a businessman or woman, I would ask the WSCR ad rep why I should continue to buy slots for a program that doesn't have the same amount of viewership of other sports-talk radio shows airing in the city. Isn't that why I buy ad space in the first place.
I'll give him credit for one honest statement, he's a better businessman than radio-show host.

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I thought Ad rates are set by how good your ratings are? IF you have shitty ratings then your ad rates go down and the station generate less revenue... I see North's ratings will continue to diminish and the ad revenue will dimnish as well.

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North is like a Sales guy/Host

Being a loser, he has time to chase advertisers

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Does North always talk like he just walked out of Satriale's Pork Store?

"I'm an earner"

"The family will be taken care of"

Kudos of the Day to North. I guess I was one of the dopes that thought things would be changing with the morning show.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Does North always talk like he just walked out of Satriale's Pork Store?


He does.

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The rest of The Pappyfather...

Dad- How much do you make?

Pappy - Don't worry. Da family will be taken care of.

Dad - What the fuck does that mean you stupid son of a bitch? How much do you make ass hole? I'm on my death bed you idiot. Answer my fucking question. You better take care of the family. We all took care of you for the first 40 years of your life.

Pappy - Awww Dad. It would have been so great if you would have let it be after my answer. Dats how it's done in da great mafia movies. I make 700k dad.

Dad - Holy shit. They haven't discovered what an idiot it you are yet? I've told you since you were 8 years old, stop acting like you're in the mafia. Ya know, mafia guys are smart usually. You fucking dropped out of high school and sound like an idiot most of the time. If you were in the mafia they would have shot you a long time ago. Fredo was smarter than you.

Pappy - Yes dad.

Dad - Get out out of here. Send in your brother. I've got some business to discuss with him. You're too stupid to understand it.

Pappy - Hums the Godfather music and leaves.


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Beardown wrote:
The rest of The Pappyfather...

Dad- How much do you make?

Pappy - Don't worry. Da family will be taken care of.

Dad - What the fuck does that mean you stupid son of a bitch? How much do you make ass hole? I'm on my death bed you idiot. Answer my fucking question. You better take care of the family. We all took care of you for the first 40 years of your life.

Pappy - Awww Dad. It would have been so great if you would have let it be after my answer. Dats how it's done in da great mafia movies. I make 700k dad.

Dad - Holy shit. They haven't discovered what an idiot it you are yet? I've told you since you were 8 years old, stop acting like you're in the mafia. Ya know, mafia guys are smart usually. You fucking dropped out of high school and sound like an idiot most of the time. If you were in the mafia they would have shot you a long time ago. Fredo was smarter than you.

Pappy - Yes dad.

Dad - Get out out of here. Send in your brother. I've got some business to discuss with him. You're too stupid to understand it.

Pappy - Hums the Godfather music and leaves.


Man I feel like a total asshole for laughing really hard at that.


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Man I feel like a total asshole for laughing really hard at that.


Me also....lol


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