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This really isn't debatable at this point.

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This really isn't debatable at this point.

I know. Top 10 is out the window.

Top 8 is the new discussion.

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long time guy wrote:
This really isn't debatable at this point.

Correct. It hasn't been debatable at any point this season.

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FavreFan wrote:
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This really isn't debatable at this point.

Correct. It hasn't been debatable at any point this season.


I agree. Secretariat at Churchill Downs was less of a sure thing.

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Bleacher Report is also pretty weak as a source.


This coming from the guy who cited Yahoo! Answers. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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This really isn't debatable at this point.

Then neither is your "boy" Boogie

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Bleacher Report is also pretty weak as a source.


This coming from the guy who cited Yahoo! Answers. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Best I could do on short notice :lol: :lol:

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Also, Bleacher Report isn't the Bureau of Amateur Writers and Slideshow-Makers any longer, not really. They've got some real journalists with working knowledge of the sports they cover and the sources to break news. They have a stigma because of their crowd-sourced content beginnings, but currently they are as reputable a news source as any.
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Also, Bleacher Report isn't the Bureau of Amateur Writers and Slideshow-Makers any longer, not really. They've got some real journalists with working knowledge of the sports they cover and the sources to break news. They have a stigma because of their crowd-sourced content beginnings, but currently they are as reputable a news source as any.



They appear to have gotten better but it is just difficult for me to get past what they used to be.

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Also, Bleacher Report isn't the Bureau of Amateur Writers and Slideshow-Makers any longer, not really. They've got some real journalists with working knowledge of the sports they cover and the sources to break news. They have a stigma because of their crowd-sourced content beginnings, but currently they are as reputable a news source as any.


They appear to have gotten better but it is just difficult for me to get past what they used to be.

It is also difficult for you to get past what Jimmy Butler used to be.

You are stubborn. You are resistant in accepting new normals. This is just your personality.

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IMU wrote:
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Also, Bleacher Report isn't the Bureau of Amateur Writers and Slideshow-Makers any longer, not really. They've got some real journalists with working knowledge of the sports they cover and the sources to break news. They have a stigma because of their crowd-sourced content beginnings, but currently they are as reputable a news source as any.


They appear to have gotten better but it is just difficult for me to get past what they used to be.

It is also difficult for you to get past what Jimmy Butler used to be.

You are stubborn. You are resistant in accepting new normals. This is just your personality.



I actually have gotten past what he used to be. I'm just not willing to overrate him as a player. There is no way that he is among the top ten players in the world

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Top 10 in the NBA. I have no idea if BC Prievidza has a better player or not. I only follow the NBA.

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Top 10 in the NBA. I have no idea if BC Prievidza has a better player or not. I only follow the NBA.


Not top ten in the NBA either. Paxson doesn't believe it which really is quite telling.

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End of season positional power rankings:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2701 ... l-forwards

#3 SF

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End of season positional power rankings:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2701 ... l-forwards

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So Jimmy Butler is a better 3 than Durant or the Greek freak? Please don't ever cite bleacher report as a source. Yahoo answers has more cred.

Also doesn't address the point about "top 10" either

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End of season positional power rankings:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2701 ... l-forwards

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So Jimmy Butler is a better 3 than Durant or the Greek freak? Please don't ever cite bleacher report as a source. Yahoo answers has more cred.

Also doesn't address the point about "top 10" either

Maybe you should read the link before you respond next time. Do you want to shit on Bleacher Report's credibility in 2017? You're an idiot, but fine. The people you then would say are credible cite Butler as having:



#13 best PER
#5 VORP
#3 best Win Shares
#6 best Win Shares per 48
#10 best Box +/-

AAAAAAND he got all of that without even being in the Top 20 in Usage Percentage.

Simply put, he is the second or third most complete player in the NBA and definitely Top 10. There is no argument.

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IMU wrote:
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End of season positional power rankings:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2701 ... l-forwards

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So Jimmy Butler is a better 3 than Durant or the Greek freak? Please don't ever cite bleacher report as a source. Yahoo answers has more cred.

Also doesn't address the point about "top 10" either

Maybe you should read the link before you respond next time.


I figured they had Durant as a 4 and that is why I strongly suggest not using them as a source anymore.

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I figured they had Durant as a 4 and that is why I strongly suggest not using them as a source anymore.

Kevin Durant played the four more than any other position in 2016-17, based on minutes played and the Warriors lineups.

Numbers don't lie.

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I figured they had Durant as a 4 and that is why I strongly suggest not using them as a source anymore.

Kevin Durant played the four more than any other position in 2016-17, based on minutes played and the Warriors lineups.

Numbers don't lie.


Here we go with this again. He starts at the 3. I'm not fighting this fight again.

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I figured they had Durant as a 4 and that is why I strongly suggest not using them as a source anymore.

Kevin Durant played the four more than any other position in 2016-17, based on minutes played and the Warriors lineups.

Numbers don't lie.


Here we go with this again. He starts at the 3. I'm not fighting this fight again.


So you are calling Steve Kerr a liar, and stating that when Draymond Green and Kevin Durant are in the front court...Steph Curry is actually the PF? Maybe Klay Thompson?

http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/109247 ... er-forward

http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/ ... ate/319616

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https://www.si.com/nba/2017/05/11/all-nba-teams-ballot-voting-lebron-james-stephen-curry-james-harden

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Among the biggest takeaways from the playoffs so far: Draymond Green has rocketed up the “Players you pick to start a franchise” list. If you’re trying to win as many games as possible in 2017-18, he can’t be any lower than the seventh or eighth pick at this point.

Good article, Walt

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https://www.si.com/nba/2017/05/11/all-nba-teams-ballot-voting-lebron-james-stephen-curry-james-harden

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Among the biggest takeaways from the playoffs so far: Draymond Green has rocketed up the “Players you pick to start a franchise” list. If you’re trying to win as many games as possible in 2017-18, he can’t be any lower than the seventh or eighth pick at this point.

Good article, Walt


Some No name guy from SI?

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https://www.si.com/nba/2017/05/11/all-nba-teams-ballot-voting-lebron-james-stephen-curry-james-harden

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Among the biggest takeaways from the playoffs so far: Draymond Green has rocketed up the “Players you pick to start a franchise” list. If you’re trying to win as many games as possible in 2017-18, he can’t be any lower than the seventh or eighth pick at this point.

Good article, Walt


Some No name guy from SI?


Don't you quote Yahoo! Answers and Ask Jeeves when trying to make an argument? :lol:

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https://www.si.com/nba/2017/05/11/all-nba-teams-ballot-voting-lebron-james-stephen-curry-james-harden

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Among the biggest takeaways from the playoffs so far: Draymond Green has rocketed up the “Players you pick to start a franchise” list. If you’re trying to win as many games as possible in 2017-18, he can’t be any lower than the seventh or eighth pick at this point.

Good article, Walt


Some No name guy from SI?


Don't you quote Yahoo! Answers and Ask Jeeves when trying to make an argument? :lol:


Yahoo Answers once never Ask Jeeves. Aren't you king of the discredit brigade though? Guys like Sam SMith have much more credibility than this clown.

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I think we are all in agreement, Jimmy is not top 10.

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I think we are all in agreement, Jimmy is not top 10.



There are still a few holdouts.

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I think we are all in agreement, Jimmy is not top 10.



There are still a few holdouts.



I'd say he's in the 12-16 range.. What say you

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I think we are all in agreement, Jimmy is not top 10.



There are still a few holdouts.



I'd say he's in the 12-16 range.. What say you


15-20.

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