Had never watched this series. Started it on Netflix about a month ago. I am on season 7, it's been entertaining. I was skeptical going in, but I've been surprised.

_________________
Fuck Edwards and Zobrist

U.S. version? I liked it like the first 5 years then it went to shit.

Fo sho. The first five seasons were awesome. The two seasons without Michael were terrible.

_________________
Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

<º)))><

Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Agree with these guys. Pretty much when Sabre takes over, it goes to shit.

First 4-5 seasons are great, last few are definitely not up to par with the rest of the series

Robert California though was a great character

_________________
I am the liquor Randy

the first 2 seasons of the US Office were superb; the 3rd and 4th were still strong, and the 5th started to lose me. i didn't like holly.

after that, i pretty much hated it until i stopped watching it completely. i did catch the finale though, and i thought that was pretty well done.

the british version is great but it's very dark and cynical. the US version tried that in the beginning but then realized that michael scott is much better as a lovable doofus.

Michael was terrible his last few years and I'm a big Steve Carell fan. I think the show was better after he left but not as good as the first few seasons.

The show had the standard issue of being built around a love story. As soon as that story plays out the show never feels as good.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The show should have ended with Jim and Pam's wedding (though not necessarily the part where they did an internet meme). It didn't get terrible immediately after that, but it sure got there eventually, and that would have been the time to wrap it up.


I'd put the first three seasons together as some of the best TV of a generation, then the fourth was really good, then the fifth started showing cracks.

_________________

We just finished rewatching this last night. The last two seasons are bad and almost redeemed with the last two episodes. The second to last episode is the best post-Carrell leaving and shows that they missed a great avenue of material for the show with what they did in the Robert California era.

_________________

I agree with this.

Michael was fine when he was a socially awkward, bumbling office manager, but when he eventually became the most incomprehensibly stupid person on earth it was unwatchable. I thought Spader was great as Robert California. Delightfully weird/eccentric.

Holly was an awful character.

Kevin was never the smartest guy in the office, but they essentially turned him into special needs person.

I caught on late to this show. Everything was funny till Holly showed up. She wrecked the show for me.

_________________
Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

Starting around season 5 or so, Jim and Pam became two of the most detestable characters in the history of television.

Even before that, there are a lot of articles on the internet that claim Jim and Pam were the real villains. I point to Karen as the greatest example. Karen does absolutely nothing wrong, is the prototype girlfriend and is completely in to Jim. He convinces her to move to Scranton, leads her on and then dumps her (leaves her in NYC, mind you) and starts dating Pam. They never showed Karen as being a terrible person or girlfriend (unlike Roy who was pretty terrible) and yet we are supposed to be happy when Jim ditches her for Pam? Bullshit I say.

_________________

Had me hooked after this scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR9gIYXMEOQ

_________________

The episode where I just stopped watching was "Scotts Tots". It was just not funny and was painful to watch. I don't know why a comedy show thought that was a good idea.

_________________
“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I loved that episode and "The Dinner Party" because they were the only times after the first season or so where the show compared to the cringe level of the UK version.

The Dinner Party was the best episode IMO. So great on so many levels.

_________________

The show was always better w/ Michael. They really fucked up not making Dwight the boss. He HAD to be Michael's successor.

My favorite line out of the whole series 'Which one is Glee?'

"Colored greens, Stanley, you don't call them collard people."

_________________

One that get thrown around my house a lot:
She's took the slow train from Philly

_________________

that was one of the fatal flaws of the show, too. karen had every right to react how she did, and jim looked like an ass. he and pam getting together was the literal "jumping the shark" moment. the whole basis rode on the tension between those two characters. i realize they had to do something with them, but to have them get married and then be the "cool, cute couple" just made me sick.

i think my favorite episode ever will be "the secret". michael's last line about "more secrets of a call girl"..."I don't want to be shila, i want to be michael" is just freaking awesome.

found it : lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HoE2rQ2LKE

agree with the consensus that the first 4-5 seasons were good, after that I was watching it because I was hoping it could be as good as it had been.... the early jim-dwight pranks were excellent... even later in the series every once in a while there'd be a good one.

somewhat off-topic, but Pam fromt he office and the lead chick from Grey's anatomy both started out on their respective shows as being rather attractive but by the end of their runs they both did not age well in my opinion.

She really was. I don't understand what the writers were thinking. They not only turned Michael into a completely annoying caricature of the person he started as but then they doubled down by putting in an even worse female version of him.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Hands down.

_________________
Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

<º)))><

Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Stanley: That's not a hate crime, Michael.
Michael: Well, I hated it!

_________________
Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

<º)))><

Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

The Dinner Party was a fun type of cringiness. His plasma TV bit is still funny. What Michael did in "Scott's Tots" was almost a cruel type of cringiness that just wasn't funny.

_________________
“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I think the best episode still is Diversity Day from season 1.

_________________
Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

<º)))><

Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way