It is currently Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:26 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 1:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55840
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
I need it to get a little sunnier and warmer so I can listen to tons of Steely Dan. They're such a warm-weather band to me.

I like The Royal Scam a lot and feel like it gets overlooked because it's between their best two albums (Katy Lied and Aja). "The Caves of Altamira" has a great brass arrangement, the worst you can say about "Don't Take Me Alive" and "Green Earrings" is that they're just sorta baseline Steely Dan songwriting, the title track has such a sinister feel, and "Haitian Divorce" even more so -- that one's one of their best songs ever. Only "The Fez" is bad. And the cover art. The cover art blows; I think even Fagen and Becker admitted as much.

Who else hated or felt they had to hate Steely Dan but ultimately came to terms with the fact that they were really good after all?

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 1:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:29 pm
Posts: 38673
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
Curious Hair wrote:
I need it to get a little sunnier and warmer so I can listen to tons of Steely Dan. They're such a warm-weather band to me.

I like The Royal Scam a lot and feel like it gets overlooked because it's between their best two albums (Katy Lied and Aja). "The Caves of Altamira" has a great brass arrangement, the worst you can say about "Don't Take Me Alive" and "Green Earrings" is that they're just sorta baseline Steely Dan songwriting, the title track has such a sinister feel, and "Haitian Divorce" even more so -- that one's one of their best songs ever. Only "The Fez" is bad. And the cover art. The cover art blows; I think even Fagen and Becker admitted as much.

Who else hated or felt they had to hate Steely Dan but ultimately came to terms with the fact that they were really good after all?

Always been a huge fan but The Royal Scam isn't one of my favorites .

_________________
Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 1:56 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 42094
Location: Rock Ridge (splendid!)
pizza_Place: Charlie Fox's / Paisano's
Kid Charlemagne. I don't need to say anything, its greatness speaks for itself.

Green Earrings is a great groove and, for them, a really simple, accessible chart.

It isn't their best effort, as you say.

_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 2:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55840
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
ranking:
Aja
Katy Lied
Pretzel Logic
The Royal Scam
Can't Buy a Thrill
Countdown to Ecstasy (I struggled with this placement. It feels too low especially considering how much I like "Show Biz Kids" and "My Old School.")
The Nightfly
Gaucho
Two Against Nature
Everything Must Go

not bothering with other solo Fagen/Becker stuff but I think The Nightfly is pretty much a Steely Dan album in all but name so yeah. Honestly there's not a lot of range between Aja and The Nightfly in terms of quality, it's all good, then they dropped off a cliff.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 2:09 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:16 am
Posts: 20082
pizza_Place: Aurelios
All I know about Steely Dan is that they are named after a dildo.

_________________
drinky wrote:
If you hate Laurence, then don't listen - don't comment. When he co-hosts the B&B show, take that day off ... listen to an old podcast of a Bernstein solo show and jerk off all day.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 2:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:12 am
Posts: 1362
pizza_Place: J.B. Alberto's
I like Gaucho more than most people do, I think.

_________________
"Now comes good sailing. Moose. Indian."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:02 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:52 pm
Posts: 12558
Location: Ex-Naperville, Ex-Homewood, Now Tinley Park
pizza_Place: Oh I'm sorry but, there's no one on the line
They are miles ahead of the Eagles in terms of talent and song value.

_________________
"All crowds boycotting football games shouldn't care who sings or takes a knee because they aren't watching." - Nas


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55840
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
MajorKong wrote:
I like Gaucho more than most people do, I think.

"Babylon Sisters" and "Hey Nineteen" are good but it gets kind of murky after that. Losing "The Second Arrangement" hurt that album bad.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:29 pm
Posts: 34795
pizza_Place: Al's Pizza
newper wrote:
They are miles ahead of the Eagles in terms of talent and song value.


Image

_________________
Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

<º)))><

Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:59 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 pm
Posts: 40609
Location: Everywhere
pizza_Place: giordanos
I am not embarrassed to call myself a Steely Dan fan.

_________________
Elections have consequences.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 10:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:28 pm
Posts: 6211
Location: Knoxville,Ill
pizza_Place: Caseys
Great band. Underrated.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:19 am 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:46 pm
Posts: 10093
pizza_Place: Q's Hillside
The second 8-track I ever owned was Aja. Literally wore the tape out. Can take or leave the newer stuff, but the Katy Lied and Aja LP were outstanding.

By far, Rickie Lee Jones's best work was the CD which Walter Becker produced.

_________________
"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 9:57 am 
Offline
1000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:55 pm
Posts: 29461
pizza_Place: Zaffiro's
Don Tiny wrote:
Kid Charlemagne. I don't need to say anything, its greatness speaks for itself.


Kid Charlemagne is one of those songs that I will just sit and listen to over and over for hours on end. For me, it's the same with "Deacon Blues," "My Old School," "Pretzel Logic," and "The Royal Scam," among others.

Their catalog has no shortage of amazing songs.

_________________
Antonio Gramsci wrote:
The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:08 am
Posts: 7155
Location: Section 433
pizza_Place: 1. Homemade 2. Jewels
Saw "Reely Dan" a few weeks ago. Reminded me how much I like Steely Dan.

In addition to others already mentioned, Dr. Wu is one of my favorites.

_________________
"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:42 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:35 pm
Posts: 10781
Location: Parrish, FL
pizza_Place: 1. Peaquods 2. Aurelios
Do it Again is a kick-ass song.
Otherwise, I fucking hate Steely Dan. Guys voice is nails on the chalkboard.

_________________
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
brick (/brik/) verb
1. block or enclose with a wall of bricks
2. Proper response would be to ask an endless series of follow ups until the person regrets having spoken to you in the first place.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 42094
Location: Rock Ridge (splendid!)
pizza_Place: Charlie Fox's / Paisano's
wdelaney72 wrote:
Do it Again is a kick-ass song.
Otherwise, I fucking hate Steely Dan. Guys voice is nails on the chalkboard.

Image


My monocle-breaking secret is I have no particular need to ever hear 'My Old School', which is generally considered to be their anthem. I could also go a long time between listenings of 'Show Biz Kids'.

My favorite depends on my mood ... I reckon the top possibilities at any given time would be Rikki, Pretzel Logic (Becker's best solo by far - incredible), FM, and Reelin' In the Years (Elliot Randall's solo is special), just because the 6/4 counterpoint going on throughout the song is just right in the pocket start to finish.

BTW, the movie FM really isn't as terrible as you'd be led to believe. Now, where you can find it to watch, well, that's on you.

_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:53 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79455
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
Don Tiny wrote:
My monocle-breaking secret is I have no particular need to ever hear 'My Old School', which is generally considered to be their anthem.


Really? "My Old School" and "Kid Charlemagne" are probably my two favorites, but if they have an anthem, I think it would have to be "Do It Again" or maybe "Rikki".

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:58 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79455
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
Don Tiny wrote:
Reelin' In the Years (Elliot Randall's solo is special)


There was this band called Nightwatch that used to play every weekend at Lakeview Lounge. They were truly a bar band and actually set up behind the bar. The guitar player, Larry could rip that solo note for note. These guys knew a million songs. But I did stump them one night when I had guests in town from the Netherlands and I got loaded and kept screaming, "Radar Love" at them.

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/p ... oid=899049

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:02 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55840
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
My monocle-breaking secret is I have no particular need to ever hear 'My Old School', which is generally considered to be their anthem.


Really? "My Old School" and "Kid Charlemagne" are probably my two favorites, but if they have an anthem, I think it would have to be "Do It Again" or maybe "Rikki".


It's this, but that might be a sentimental favorite because it was in heavy rotation as a bumper for Cubs games on WGN back when I listened to Cubs radio every day.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:29 pm
Posts: 38673
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
I pretty much celebrate their whole catalogue but yeah there's very few musical moments better than Beckers Pretzel Logic solo.

_________________
Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:33 pm
Posts: 19017
pizza_Place: World Famous Pizza
Dildo

_________________
Seacrest wrote:
The menstrual cycle changes among Hassidic Jewish women was something as well.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:52 pm
Posts: 12558
Location: Ex-Naperville, Ex-Homewood, Now Tinley Park
pizza_Place: Oh I'm sorry but, there's no one on the line
I think the music is incredibly interesting and the lyrics are also incredibly interesting -- very few bands can pull both of those off song after song.

I've posted this before, but Donald Fagen breaking down the keyboard work is really interesting, even for someone who does not play music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP_2r9zbaIY

_________________
"All crowds boycotting football games shouldn't care who sings or takes a knee because they aren't watching." - Nas


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:14 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 42094
Location: Rock Ridge (splendid!)
pizza_Place: Charlie Fox's / Paisano's
SpiralStairs wrote:
Dildo

Pickled money?

_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:05 pm 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:46 pm
Posts: 10093
pizza_Place: Q's Hillside
This video is pretty good as well, breaking down Deacon Blues - Aja was one of the first albums I ever spent money on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfS5zCCZGWI

I want that isolated synthesizer solo at the 6:35 mark of the video to be my smartphone ring tone.

_________________
"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:13 am
Posts: 17583
Location: BLM Lake Forest Chapter
pizza_Place: Quonset
Horrible band. Over rated garbage. Painful listen.

_________________
Don Tiny wrote:
Don't be such a fucking chump.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:29 pm
Posts: 38673
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
Just listened to Don't Take Me Alive. That motherfucking opening is the shit.

_________________
Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:01 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 42094
Location: Rock Ridge (splendid!)
pizza_Place: Charlie Fox's / Paisano's
GoldenJet wrote:
Horrible band. Over rated garbage. Painful listen.

Image

_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:25 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:16 pm
Posts: 1706
pizza_Place: My moms grave
GoldenJet wrote:
Horrible band. Over rated garbage. Painful listen.



Explain yourself? While I personally don't like Steely Dan they are anything but horrible or over rated. I will give you painful listen because that is truly subjective and I happen to agree. That being said the talent is pretty amazing and the best production ever. You may just be trolling but you can't call them horrible.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:28 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:56 pm
Posts: 37807
Location: ...
Shut it, Steely Dan!

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steely Dan
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:01 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:11 pm
Posts: 3612
Location: Home of Dick Tracy Days
pizza_Place: Georgio's--Crystal Lake
W_Z wrote:
Shut it, Steely Dan!

Image



Nerds!!

_________________
An unjust law is no law at all--St. Augustine of Hippo

Cause tried and true
I see the light in you
Oh, can you dig in my soul?
Could you smell my whole...
life?--Gener and Deaner


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group