Let's pick our battles Rick. I trolled Bear fans here after that incident because it was very easy to get them riled up, but let's not question his toughness. The guy was bad and set the Bears franchise back a decade with that trade, and Frank is behind only spanky and veganfan(sorry rfdc, you come fourth but not for lack of trying) in terms of apologizing for Cutler, but he was a tough player and would have played through that if he could. The Rivers injury, iirc, had a longer timetable for recovery but was also easier to play on in the moment.

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Point at them for what? He had at best a minor knee strain that required no medical intervention. It wasn't an injury that would immediately rule you out of the game and the Bears didn't do that. You used the word tear, which was wrong, and you said that not even a warrior would have played on it and I provided at least one example of a qb who played with a worse one. It's not like I was looking for a chance to call Jay Cutler out for not going back into that game. I haven't even said he should have. RGIII went back in with a bad knee injury and it was a dumb decision.

It just wasn't a tear and some quarterbacks would have returned to the game.

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This is why you got called Dr. Rick. You do not know this nor did you. You have no idea the degree of strain, the amount of pain (or maybe none) or the degree of instability of his knee at that time. Cutler certainly was not Big Ben tough in hs career but he wasn't some pussy looking to get out of the game.

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I'm not questioning his toughness. We just don't need to make it more than it was. It wasn't a tear. It's an injury that many quarterbacks would have at least attempted to play on. The only thing I've ever held against him about that game is how horrible he was in it.

Cutler was tough. Almost all quarterbacks are tough.

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It was a minor knee strain. This is a fact. He was pictured out walking around by Wednesday. He required no surgery. He rode a bike on the sidelines. It was a minor knee strain.

That isn't questioning his toughness either to simply use correct terms.

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Just seems like you're fighting an unnecessary battle. Bears were losing that game either way because he wasn't a good QB and his backups weren't. The trade set them back a decade because he wasn't a good QB. That game is a minor footnote in the disappointment of his Bears tenure as QB.

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I must have missed the broadcast news of the minor strain. Regardless, strains and his not playing likely had to with stability rather than pain threshold.

As far as this thread is concerned I do not really think Cutler would have played better than McMahon. I wonder if he would have stayed clear of the injuries Mac had and had more opportunity to play. Bottom line is Cutler failed for what the Bears and fans expected in his own chance.

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Im obviously not an older guy but anyone taking Hampton's side in this I think has to be a younger guy who is dumb and just looks at stats or an older guy who is just plain dumb with no excuse.

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Probably, but it beats talking about the roided out freaks hitting juiced balls out of the park a lot by being thrown easy pitches!

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Agree. The baseball section embarrassed itself with that.

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The score just told me during an update that the HR Derby had its highest ratings since 2002 or something. It must be a big deal and need to be discussed at least as much as NBA summer league.

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He was out shopping on Wednesday!

But yeah he would have missed the Super Bowl two weeks later with a knee injury that didn't even stop him from riding a bike at the time.

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You are Cutler's Beardown.

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Would that make you Trump's Beardown?

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I wouldn't put my level of emotional investment in that level.

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In all seriousness, why do you get so worked up every time I mention Cutler? This is a thread about him and Beardown has said far more outrageous things about Cutler than I have in here.

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I think it's pretty outrageous for you to feel like you know better than Urlacher and Lovie did.

If you have ever sprained a knee while playing QB, then please do share with the rest of us.

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I do not get worked up. I think it is mildly entertaining your level of dislike and perseverance/consistency in hating Cutler. I say he was a mistake in hindsight like many but you have led the wish for him to be gone like 5 years at least.

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I think it was his guy Bernsie, the orthopedic specialist, that informed us all sprains are in fact some level of tear years ago.

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I was leading the charge to run this buster out of town before he got here, I knew the trade sucked immediately.

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I don't disagree with Lovie or Urlacher. Cutler would have played in the Super Bowl though.

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All hypothetical here, do you believe Big Ben or Brady play through that?

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Yes, I was right about Cutler. You got me.

I pretty much only mention Cutler when people like Frank and Beardown try and rewrite his history. I am glad he is gone though.

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I don't know about Brady but I have seen Ben play through tons of pain and injury. I think it really depends on stability or the ability to use the leg for the QB job. I have seen been sit because a wobbly leg is not going to work.

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I always enjoy reading you here. One of my particular favorites was the entire theme you had about no team can win without drafting a high first round QB or something like that.

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You don't read well do you?

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Were you not of the belief that the Bears needed to draft a QB in the first round with a first round grade? Also, opining that outside of the very top of the first round they were unlikely to be successful?

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I didn't rewrite a damn thing.

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