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So yeah, I don't have much hope for the rest of this series. The writing has gotten god fucking awful. Oh well. It was a good show for awhile

Tyrion killing Tywin was the peak. It's been a slow decline since then.


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I want to know where the fuck they got that gigantic chain from?! :lol: :lol:


The Night King always carries around 3 giant ice chains.

It is known.


Its also funny that during every battle the zombies are '28 Days Later' fast but its taken them 9 months to slowly march from Hardhome to the wall.

They need to get themselves a Zombie Gendry, who apparently is an All World distance runner

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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I want to know where the fuck they got that gigantic chain from?! :lol: :lol:


The Night King always carries around 3 giant ice chains.

It is known.


Its also funny that during every battle the zombies are '28 Days Later' fast but its taken them 9 months to slowly march from Hardhome to the wall.



Before I thought they wanted to kill people, now are they biting and eating them?


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The white walkers seem a lot more sentient than in early seasons / the books.

Yeah, the writers are basically just winging it now. It's embarrassing.


True but I can't really blame them.

They signed on to make an adaptation of the books. Book 6 was supposed to be done 4 years ago and Book 7 shortly after that.

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So yeah, I don't have much hope for the rest of this series. The writing has gotten god fucking awful. Oh well. It was a good show for awhile

Tyrion killing Tywin was the peak. It's been a slow decline since then.

Yeah, that's probably true.

I'll stand by my assertion that BCS is a FAR SUPERIOR tv show currently.

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FavreFan wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Hank Scorpio wrote:

I want to know where the fuck they got that gigantic chain from?! :lol: :lol:


The Night King always carries around 3 giant ice chains.

It is known.


Its also funny that during every battle the zombies are '28 Days Later' fast but its taken them 9 months to slowly march from Hardhome to the wall.

They need to get themselves a Zombie Gendry, who apparently is an All World distance runner


He rowed back.

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So yeah, I don't have much hope for the rest of this series. The writing has gotten god fucking awful. Oh well. It was a good show for awhile


Its no surprise its happened. The first 3 seasons were the best and they were fairly close to the source material. Once they jumped past the books and invented their own storylines, its gotten worse. I think GRRM told them "X sits the Iron Throne at the end" and they've just done their own thing after that.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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IMU wrote:
The white walkers seem a lot more sentient than in early seasons / the books.

Yeah, the writers are basically just winging it now. It's embarrassing.


True but I can't really blame them.

They signed on to make an adaptation of the books. Book 6 was supposed to be done 4 years ago and Book 7 shortly after that.

So they are just picking out fan theories and voting on the best ones


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the "how about, my queen" exchange was right out of some bullshit fanfic.

otherwise, the episode was awesome.


I dunno, the dragons being used as the deus ex machina in this episode seemed kind of trite. Then again, the resulting plot twist was pretty cool.

Also, I find the whole "beyond the wall" expedition rather preposterous as a diplomatic/political tool.


the dragons are a deus ex machina whenever they're used. at least this time there was a price paid. and the dragons didn't solve anything.

jon snow's not known for his good ideas. this was definitely a stupid excursion but what can you expect...

i agree the writing this season has been a bit dumbed down. but if you look at some of the new audience the show has gathered...i can't really say i blame them.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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The white walkers seem a lot more sentient than in early seasons / the books.

Yeah, the writers are basically just winging it now. It's embarrassing.


True but I can't really blame them.

They signed on to make an adaptation of the books. Book 6 was supposed to be done 4 years ago and Book 7 shortly after that.

So they are just picking out fan theories and voting on the best ones


Basically.

I'm sure Martin is giving some things to them but HBO wants their show so these guys have to make shit happen.

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Cashman wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Hank Scorpio wrote:

I want to know where the fuck they got that gigantic chain from?! :lol: :lol:


The Night King always carries around 3 giant ice chains.

It is known.


Its also funny that during every battle the zombies are '28 Days Later' fast but its taken them 9 months to slowly march from Hardhome to the wall.



Before I thought they wanted to kill people, now are they biting and eating them?


I don't know if they are eating them are they? I think they just use every weapon at their disposal and biting works in close combat.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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So yeah, I don't have much hope for the rest of this series. The writing has gotten god fucking awful. Oh well. It was a good show for awhile


Its no surprise its happened. The first 3 seasons were the best and they were fairly close to the source material. Once they jumped past the books and invented their own storylines, its gotten worse. I think GRRM told them "X sits the Iron Throne at the end" and they've just done their own thing after that.

Was season 4 veering from the books?


It had Mountain vs Viper and Tyrion vs Tywin. Great season.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
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So yeah, I don't have much hope for the rest of this series. The writing has gotten god fucking awful. Oh well. It was a good show for awhile


Its no surprise its happened. The first 3 seasons were the best and they were fairly close to the source material. Once they jumped past the books and invented their own storylines, its gotten worse. I think GRRM told them "X sits the Iron Throne at the end" and they've just done their own thing after that.

Was season 4 veering from the books?


It had Mountain vs Viper and Tyrion vs Tywin. Great season.


No, you're right. I thought that was season 3.

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So yeah, I don't have much hope for the rest of this series. The writing has gotten god fucking awful. Oh well. It was a good show for awhile

Tyrion killing Tywin was the peak. It's been a slow decline since then.

Yeah, that's probably true.

I'll stand by my assertion that BCS is a FAR SUPERIOR tv show currently.

I don't even know what the BCS acronym stands for so it can't be that good?

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they used to determine the national champion.

no, he means "Better Call Saul".


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I've heard reviews as stellar as "it's pretty okay."

"I don't hate it."

"What else am I going to watch on a Monday?"

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I guess I'm in the minority on this one. I thought this was one of the lamest episodes of the entire series. Very disappointed. The entire mission made no fucking sense.
It was but it also was the biggest setup episode in the series and they had to find a way to get all the pieces in the right places. This was them fixing the issues created by the books and finally bringing the entire world and cast of characters into the same storyline for the last episodes.

When we view the season finale and then what is setup for next season I think we'll realize that all of it was now possible because of this episode and that quest.

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I've heard reviews as stellar as "it's pretty okay."

"I don't hate it."

"What else am I going to watch on a Monday?"



I think FF is full on retard when it comes to his BCS love, but these comments are just as retarded. BCS is a very good show, but not even anywhere near the same class as BB or GOT.

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I've heard reviews as stellar as "it's pretty okay."

"I don't hate it."

"What else am I going to watch on a Monday?"



I think FF is full on retard when it comes to his BCS love, but these comments are just as retarded. BCS is a very good show, but not even anywhere near the same class as BB or GOT.

I've never seen it. But that is the feeling I get when I see it discussed. Like, it is a fine show. But in a world with so many amazing shows currently available...why go out of your way for it?

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BCS is a very good show. One of the best current shows.

Now just leave it alone.


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Id love to watch the finale with Fonzie. He's gotta be the most likable celebrity on the planet.


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I've heard reviews as stellar as "it's pretty okay."

"I don't hate it."

"What else am I going to watch on a Monday?"



I think FF is full on retard when it comes to his BCS love, but these comments are just as retarded. BCS is a very good show, but not even anywhere near the same class as BB or GOT.

I've never seen it. But that is the feeling I get when I see it discussed. Like, it is a fine show. But in a world with so many amazing shows currently available...why go out of your way for it?

You go out of your way for it because it's the best show currently on tv

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I guess I'm in the minority on this one. I thought this was one of the lamest episodes of the entire series. Very disappointed. The entire mission made no fucking sense.
It was but it also was the biggest setup episode in the series and they had to find a way to get all the pieces in the right places. This was them fixing the issues created by the books and finally bringing the entire world and cast of characters into the same storyline for the last episodes.

When we view the season finale and then what is setup for next season I think we'll realize that all of it was now possible because of this episode and that quest.

Completely disagree. This episode isn't going to be retroactively redeemed if next week is awesome. It was a perfect example of just how stupid and lazy the GOT writers have gotten.

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I guess I'm in the minority on this one. I thought this was one of the lamest episodes of the entire series. Very disappointed. The entire mission made no fucking sense.
It was but it also was the biggest setup episode in the series and they had to find a way to get all the pieces in the right places. This was them fixing the issues created by the books and finally bringing the entire world and cast of characters into the same storyline for the last episodes.

When we view the season finale and then what is setup for next season I think we'll realize that all of it was now possible because of this episode and that quest.

Completely disagree. This episode isn't going to be retroactively redeemed if next week is awesome. It was a perfect example of just how stupid and lazy the GOT writers have gotten.

Ok maybe just stop watching then.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I guess I'm in the minority on this one. I thought this was one of the lamest episodes of the entire series. Very disappointed. The entire mission made no fucking sense.
It was but it also was the biggest setup episode in the series and they had to find a way to get all the pieces in the right places. This was them fixing the issues created by the books and finally bringing the entire world and cast of characters into the same storyline for the last episodes.

When we view the season finale and then what is setup for next season I think we'll realize that all of it was now possible because of this episode and that quest.

Completely disagree. This episode isn't going to be retroactively redeemed if next week is awesome. It was a perfect example of just how stupid and lazy the GOT writers have gotten.

Ok maybe just stop watching then.

:lol:

You're getting into Bucky Chris/Apple territory in terms of defensiveness. It's ok to think this show isn't flawless.

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I guess I'm in the minority on this one. I thought this was one of the lamest episodes of the entire series. Very disappointed. The entire mission made no fucking sense.
It was but it also was the biggest setup episode in the series and they had to find a way to get all the pieces in the right places. This was them fixing the issues created by the books and finally bringing the entire world and cast of characters into the same storyline for the last episodes.

When we view the season finale and then what is setup for next season I think we'll realize that all of it was now possible because of this episode and that quest.

Completely disagree. This episode isn't going to be retroactively redeemed if next week is awesome. It was a perfect example of just how stupid and lazy the GOT writers have gotten.

Ok maybe just stop watching then.

:lol:

You're getting into Bucky Chris/Apple territory in terms of defensiveness. It's ok to think this show isn't flawless.
I'm not being defensive. You won't even entertain the idea that with extra context we will discover why this episode had to be how it was. You have spent most of the season calling the writing stupid and lazy even when the point here is that the writing of that specific episode will likely have solid reasoning why it had to be done.

I didn't think it was a particularly strong episode either. I just think that when we look at it based on what it setup we will understand that it was vitally important to pretty much everything that happens. I've read a little bit too much of r/freefolk to feel comfortable giving my expanded thoughts on that prior to the season finale but I think you are wrong to completely write off the possibility that the "stupid and lazy" writing was not done with specific purposes in mind.

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I'm sure they have a reason behind it. It's just a bad one.

I'm far from the only one with this criticism. Most critics agree the writing has been a pretty glaring weakness this season.

If you read all my comments I think you'll realize I haven't been overly critical. It's a very good show that is struggling towards the finish line. Very common

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From the moment they decided the plan to capture a wight and bring it to Cersei, it was a stupid plan.

What guarantee is there that a) Cersei will believe what she's seeing is real, and b) that she'll care. Plus why was this the only way?

Nothing that happened this week, nor nothing that could happen next week would change that.

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